I've played around in both, and in truth, FLEX by far seems the more
"suitable" pick. I guess Microsoft in many ways learnt a lot about
.NET and Browser-ware applications. It probably didn't really occur to
them until late in the piece that folks would prefer to have remote
applications that are accessible world-wide.

The language base is one thing if it takes too long to code then it
could also be a bitter pill to swallow, none the less if we based
technology on coding capabilities alone, then coldfusion should have
the entire market wrapped up in a nice neat bow, as its CFML is by far
less verbose then some of its competiting languages.


I think what will either make or break Longhorn is its user
development uptake, what I mean by that is we "FLEX" devs could have
the superior technoloy, but in the end we are still a relatively small
breed of people.

I get countless MSN's, Skype msgs, emails etc all asking "Scott, whats
your thoughts on Laszlo" or insert other technology here. I give my
opinion, and then ask why not flex? typical response. Price.

Won't debate the merits of the price tag, but essentially if people on
the street do think in that way and Longhorn offers a cheaper
alternative (ie excluding the Visual IDE tools) then people power may
win the battle, despite the technology benchmarks.

I'm sceptical in truth of it getting much initial traction, and if
Flash Player continues to gian in performance, it could very well
rival the traditional "thickware" applications.

Who knows what FLEX 2.0 will bring to the table, i mean it could go up
in price? how will we all handle that? or it could decrease in price
and centre itself around bundled packaging. No idea on whats real and
just simply "what if" point is until I see the end result of FLEX 2.0
or FLEX 2.5/3.0 I think its way too premature to speculate on Longhorn
vs FLEX.

As for Jesse's comment, Macromedia isn't deaf. They do listen, and
well (even though we the customer may not agree on direction at times,
they still listen to us the customer)


On 7/20/05, JesterXL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, there is tons of people putting 95+ million dollars a year in MM's
> pockets for Flash, and fixin' to put more for Flash Lite all collectively
> screaming for Flex' capabilities.  There are many smaller software shops
> that share the same sentiments, only don't take it as personally as I do and
> others of my ilk do.  Macromedia isn't deaf; they'll listen and most likely
> act.
> 
> By the time Longhorn is out, we'll make it look stupid.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jwc_wensan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:07 PM
> Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Longhorn Impact
> 
> 
> Jester:
> 
> I didn't mean how Flex could run on or with Longhorn, but rather
> from the development side with .NET and other development platforms
> that work with Longhorn/Avalon.
> 
> And don't have the same high server cost.
> 
> By pricing, I meant do you think with the release of Longhorn that
> MM might lower their license price.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "JesterXL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Straigh bangin' thread!!!
> >
> > XAML is an XML definition that is very low level and no one in
> their right
> > mind will hand code.  Therefore, there will be good editors to
> write that
> > for you.  Catch that?  An editor to write XMAL for you.
> >
> > XML is... what?  XML.
> >
> > MXML is... what?  XML.
> >
> > Compiling Flex apps to run in Avalon instead of SWF is awesome...
> but, I'd
> > put my dough (whatever I can scrounge away from the IRS) on
> Macromedia's
> > ability to capitalize on Longhorns features, thus, I'd rather have
> Flex
> > output the XAML that is a SWF hybrid; meaning, something like
> Central that
> > is desktop orientated, like Microsoft's SmartClient, and utilizes
> the best
> > of both worlds.
> >
> > If only I could accelerate time... or help Microsoft find their
> arse...
> >
> > As far as pricing, no clue what your talking about; elaborate.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jwc_wensan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:38 PM
> > Subject: [flexcoders] Longhorn Impact
> >
> >
> > To All:
> >
> > Just interested to hear your opinions.
> >
> > Regardless of when Microsoft's Longhorn ships, either mid/late 2006
> > or even 2007, what are your thoughts on its impact to the RIA
> > development area?
> >
> > Will it force MM's hand on pricing?
> >
> > Other thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
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