I don't think your crazy eh. Being the glue guy, never actually tried
that eh, sounds like something I will have to try. I usually allow people to
implement an entire use-case on their own and then just tweak the UI for them
eh. That way it appears to me anyways, that we are working in parallel and
delivering the final overall solution quicker. I find that with Flex, you can
build the UI so fast, that if you just do UI, you then wait for the serverside
to do their part before you can complete the UI
work.
Curiosity, how much glueing do you actually do? Or
maybe your definition of glueing? I usually just review the code written
every second day as the project goes along and give the boys feedback on things
to tweak.
Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas
RIA Developer
Optimal Payments Inc.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Development Cycle
I've not had the luxury as yet of working with a large number of devs
in one team on an flex application, but I've had suceess in giving
portion-work to be done out. In that, I typically am the guy that
glues it all together.
In that, I can get folks to work on server-side framework (ignore UI),
simply give me a model to tap into that allows data / and objects to
be shared around as if they were currency (ie i';; give you a
profileVO, invoiceVO and you give me back a
InvoiceCostcodesCollectionVO ). I'm a firm believer in trading with
objects (like most I guess).
Then, on the UI side of things i'll ask someone to build a Panel,
which allows insert/update/delete costcodes.. meaning just give me the
visuals and an api to call in terms of populating this 'view" with
relevant data (combination of component development / viewhelper
mindset).
Then, I'll be the guy or one of them, that will piece the items
together, making sure things fit nice and snug if not, request some
refactoring or enhancements (if they follow the specs/UML/Sequence
Diagrams etc.. shouldn't be a problem).
That being said, If i am a lone coder, I also play each role like the
above, that way can break up un intended coupling and make my work
load more agile.
Cairngorm is a team framework and so if you start top-down or down-up,
its got enough hooks in place to give you a nice footing on either
direction? or am i full of crap ? (could be the later, its quite
possible hehe).
On 8/25/05, Dimitrios Gianninas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've discovered the same thing here, with Flex, we typical prototype the UI
> and show it to stakeholders and thus get approval on the design and get
> immediate feedback on what we might be missing based on what we've provided
> at that time.
>
> However, come development time, I do think that giving each developer his
> own use-case to implement end-to-end (DB, serverside, UI) results in quicker
> delivery of the product. It also reduces dead-time, meantime Ui developer
> waiting for the serverside guy to complete his part before he can finish
> wiring things up at the UI level and so on.
>
> My 2 cents Canadian.
>
> Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas
> RIA Developer
> Optimal Payments Inc.
>
>
> ________________________________
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngorm Development Cycle
>
>
> I've typically gone down the path of building the DB --> Serverside
> --> UI, but..
>
> I've found with FLEX, it being a new medium and in many ways its
> easier to simply build UI upfront, get the "stakeholders" chomping at
> the bit in terms of what's written in spec form vs whats being built.
>
> It also helps to visualise how this is all going to pan out. I had a
> 52+ page spec for an application I was working on, and It was pretty
> darn thorough (even sequence diagrams heh).
>
> Yet, when the time came to put it to "digital" form, we discovered a
> few specific items that were either overlooked or needed more
> attention (mainly for how the business would cope vs technically).
>
> So, to summarise, I build outward-in, Cairngorms pretty good in that
> regard as you can come back and plug in the appropriate code via the
> Business Delegate(s)
>
> (ie i've built apps without even knowing how the server-side will
> work, aswell as how the db will work). VO's were fun when doing that,
> as it sometimes pays to have "knowledge" of both so you can mirror in
> equal aspects via both technologies..
>
>
>
> On 8/24/05, Steven Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
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> > I posted something a month or so back with a subject "Cairngorm for
> Dummies"
> > which indicated typical workflow. Your call whether you build
> horizontally
> > (ie in layers) - for me, I typically would build an application on a
> > use-case by use-case basis, from the view to the database (usually from
> the
> > bottom up).
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