On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Guy Morton <g...@alchemy.com.au> wrote:
> I think the only thing you should draw from this announcement is that
> Adobe has given up on trying to support flash as a browser plugin on
> mobile devices. I think they have seen that a) performance is an issue they
> may struggle to fix while maintaining compatibility and b) there is market
> resistance to plugins on mobile platforms (see the Windows 8 Metro
> "plugin-less" IE as the final domino to fall there).
> Flash is now in decline as a plugin technology. It will continue for a
> good few years yet, but it is trending downwards. Because its life as a
> plugin is drawing to an end, Adobe is seeking to reshape Flash as an
> app-building tool. This makes perfect sense, and if they do it well, they
> could manage to make an army of Flash/flex developers into app developers,
> which is not all bad.
> Adobe has read the writing on the wall and is putting a lot of effort into
> re-shaping themselves as the tool provider for HTML5. Certainly there is a
> need for great tools in this area, so I hope they succeed in doing this.
> Also, you might note with interest their purchase of nitobi, who make
> On 13/11/2011, at 1:56 AM, e_val_soft wrote:
> I'd like to understand more about Adobe's latest annnouncement that they
> will focus on HTML5 on mobile platforms(rather than Flash).
> Obviously a kick in the head for flex/air developers targetting
> applications that need or want a mobile client because mobile platform
> manufacturers will drop Flash (in a flash) from their product plans.
> I've seen some mixed messages - Adobe's version which is just a change in
> focus while the industry reads it like a Flash obituary. Here are two
> bullets from Adobe's announcement:
> ------from Adobe.com------------
> •Shifting resources to support even greater investment in HTML5, through
> tools like Adobe® Dreamweaver, Adobe Edge and PhoneGap, recently added
> through the acquisition of Nitobi
> •Focusing Flash resources on delivering the most advanced PC web
> experiences, including gaming and premium video, as well as mobile apps
> I can almost see them sitting around the board room table debating whether
> to stick that ", as well as mobile apps" on the end of bullet 2 just to
> leave people like us (Flex developers I mean) confused. Pretend you're a
> Samsung or Motorola executive planning the next release of your latest
> mobile device. Do we spend $10 million and 40 developers integrating Flash?
> Since the vast majority of new, innovative applications involve
> incorporation or embracing of mobile clients, Flash's ubiquity, which
> is/was its greatest selling point, is gone. I mean when Jobs took a stand
> to ban Flash from iOS - that was a phaser blast to the holodeck, but
> this...this is a photon torpedo to the bridge.
> Am I reading this wrong, or should I be starting my new HTML5 career now?
> I mean once flash is gone from mobile, it is gone as a general web
> application framework so forget those desktop focused applications too,
> except some specialized graphics oriented apps.
> I think of what I'm developing now on Flex and it would be years away from
> possible with HTML5 but maybe I should be focusing on HTML5 plus one of the
> I'm really looking for some opinions here about what flex developers think
> of the near term future based on this announcement. It'd be great to hear
> some Adobe employee perspectives (probably on gag order) but anyone with
> some insight, please do tell. I'd love to be told I'm exaggerating the
> consequence of the announcement....