I want to expand my web services object design tools
and was wondering what FLEX 2.0 coders out their
recommend as the best Java Environment?

Since I love Macromedia products already, is there
anything special about JRun and what is the best IDE
for use with JRun (if it even matters; I've used JRun
before to run java classes so I understand it; just
wondering).

Also, I've followed ColdFusion since before Macromedia
bought it (like I followed "FutureSplash" before it
was bought; Macr. is smart) -- anyway, I've tried the
product several times and really felt it was overkill;
can someone explain to me what's could be significant
about the ColdFusion Plans and FLEX 2.0 framework and
Enterprise Services?

Thanks.

-r


--- Alistair McLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> Cairngorm is mostly a formalisation of what Steven
> and I produced in Chapter
> 20 of the book. Cairngorm does, however, add
> strategies for managing the
> flow of data between your model and your views, by
> adding more detail using
> the ModelLocator and ViewHelper strategies.
> 
> You should download Cairngorm and take a look
> through the documentation.
> 
> We're currently putting thought into how Cairngorm
> can incorporate the new
> features announced for Flex 2. If you have any
> ideas, please let us know
> either here (though the message may get lost) or on
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> Cheers,
> 
> Ali
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Richard Rodseth
> Sent: 20 October 2005 07:49
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] (2.0) App flow
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> I haven't looked at Flex 2 yet, but don't you wish
> Macromedia would include
> a best-practices framework with the product, even if
> it's optional for the
> "look what I can do in one small file" crowd? I'm
> new to Flex, and have
> adopted the ideas in Ch 20 of the i2 book, but
> haven't explored Cairngorm
> yet. I'm curious what kinds of things it offers
> beyond the stuff in the book
> (front-side controller, commands, view helpers etc.)
> 
> - Richard
> 
> On 10/20/05, John C. Bland II
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> >  I've seen that name on the list a lot. Guess its
> time to look into 
> > it. Thx Jimmy.
> >
> >
> > On 10/19/05, Dimitrios Gianninas <
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> > >
> > > Once you are done building simple Flex
> applications and ready to 
> > > move on,
> > you should take a look at the Cairngorm framework,
> follow the link below.
> > >
> > >
>
http://www.iterationtwo.com/open_source_cairngorm.html
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> > > Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas
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> > > ________________________________
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> > >
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> > > I only have minimal contact with Flex but follow
> it just fine (code
> wise).
> > My main desire right now is to get a good idea of
> how to structure my
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> > structure the actual app.
> > >
> > > So, from a design standpoint and an application
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> > > there a
> > solid direction I can toy with until I am
> comfortable with flowing 
> > naturally. I do have the Flex book from the
> iteration folks but I'm 
> > looking for Flex 2.0 here (which it may still
> apply).
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> > > Thx...just trying to sharpen up. (I'm loving
> Flex and these Flex 
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