Dave, "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
Too much of anything is a bad thing, and people who just blindly and unobjectively turn everything into a pattern, focus so much on shoehorning a solution, they don't stop to think what the problem is they're trying to solve in the first place. However, with the appropriate and prerequisite knowledge that was behind the design pattern movement, they are a useful abstraction for software engineers to apply to address complexity (not introduce it) and increase code clarity (not obfuscate it) in a team environment. Blame the player, don't blame the game. Steven -- Steven Webster Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Macromedia Consulting EMEA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: + 44 (0) 131 338 6108 Mobile: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 > -----Original Message----- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wolf > Sent: 03 November 2005 17:48 > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To > code-behind or not to code- > > I actually don't think there are pattern gods. There are > just pattern devils. Maybe they are gremlins? They like to > creep into simple problems and make them big and confusing. > > <ducking back into my dark closet/> > > -- > Dave Wolf > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Webster" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > OK, we're analysing this to a level it was never meant to > be analysed > > at. > > > > The ViewHelper is a name borrowed from the Core J2EE > Pattern catalogue. > > As far as I'm aware, it's just a name, it's not a more generic or > > specific form of another pattern, it's just an observation that > > sometimes it makes sense to take functionality out of a big > thing, and > > stick it in a smaller thing. > > > > If you abstract functionality out of a Front Controller and > stick it > > in a class that you think helps it; give it a name that > makes sense ? > > There are no pattern gods that will strike you down for not > calling it > > a "Front Controller Helper". > > > > Code communicates intent. So whatever you intend, communicate it. > > > > Steven > > > > -- > > Steven Webster > > Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Macromedia > Consulting > > EMEA > > > > Office: + 44 (0) 131 338 6108 > > Mobile: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen > > > Sent: 03 November 2005 16:13 > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: > > > [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?) > > > > > > Yeah, I understand the ViewHelper. The more generic > 'helper object' > > > though I have not heard of. So, View Helper is a helper obejct. > > > So, say I have a Front Controller object that needs some 'help', > > > would I apply a Front Controller Helper object? > > > Obvioulsy this depends on the problem to solve, > abstractly though is > > > this idea sound? I'm no master of patterns, but sounds like the > > > view helper may come from a larger parent pattern called > Helper or > > > something. > > > > > > Does UK English really use "ain't"? lol! > > > > > > DK > > > > > > On 11/3/05, Steven Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Douglas, > > > > > > > > > Got me thinking though....in OOP terms just what is a > > > "helper object"? > > > > > I don't recall seeing these in say Java, or maybe > they have a > > > > > different name. > > > > > > > > View Helper was one of the Core J2EE Patterns, that would > > > most usually > > > > have been implemented as a custom-tag in JSP. > > > > > > > > It's nothing magical, just a pattern to be aware you > can refactor > > > > towards. Sometimes patterns make the simple sound magical. > > > But the > > > > View Helper ain't that. It's simple. > > > > > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Steven Webster > > > > Practice Director (Rich Internet Applications) Macromedia > > > Consulting > > > > EMEA > > > > > > > > Office: + 44 (0) 131 338 6108 > > > > Mobile: +44 (0) 7917 428 947 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > > > FAQ: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > > > > Search Archives: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Douglas Knudsen > > > http://www.cubicleman.com > > > this is my signature, like it? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help > you find a > > > job). 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