Re: [flexcoders] Having hard time understanding what features are available to whom when and how

Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:12:47 -0800

I've used Axis on other projects, but I'm not sure how this interaction as a RemoteObject would look in the context of Flex 2.0 .  Do you know of a working example of this somewhere?  I'm not sure what I would code on the Flex side and I'm not sure what I'd need to do on the server side to make it compatible and synchronize.

I'm also wondering whether everything is available to support developing this demo for as long as it takes or if I will at some point have to buy a license for one thing or another to continue development.  I also need to know how to explain the production operational costs to a potential investor.  Potentially this is an application run by large companies on their own servers for many subscribers.

And from a technical viewpoint, I'm still wondering how to implement these arbitrary small shapes (such as states on a map) that need to change to one of a number of colors.  I'd probably be able to answer that by myself if I were a Flash developer, but my Flash experience is limited to having run through the examples of a much earlier version of Flash.

I know that's a lot of questions.

Thanks,
Bruce

On 12/27/05, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
I think you'll find 1.5 a more stable development experience in the next
month though of course 2.0 offers a lot of stuff.  For RemoteObject in
2.0 for now you do need the 2.0 CF adapter, but as many folks will be
happy to point out you could also just expose your Java objects via a
WebService using Apache Axis instead (this should be done in the 2.0
samples maybe but is definitely in 1.5 for reference).  The Flex 2 alpha
will hint at functionality (like RemoteObject) that may not actually be
functional in your configuration.

Matt


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Having hard time understanding what features
are available to whom when and how

I cannot answer all of your questions, but here are my suggestions.
- assuming on Windows, download Apache Tomcat
- download Flex 1.5 demo
- install Flex 1.5 demo with just FlexBuilder 1.5
- copy and paste the flex.war & samples.war files into Tomcat's webapps
directory

Hit the samples page to ensure all is well.  On mine, it's:

http://localhost:8080/samples/

I've yet to get Flex 2 to work with Remoting + AMFPHP.  Considering AMF
(the
binary format used to send serialized class bits across the wire) is
undergoing big changes, OpenAMF (Java) and AMFPHP (PHP) don't really
work
yet.

I've heard of some people getting Remoting to work with the CFAdapter,
but I
don't use CF ( I do at work, but I don't code it).  Some have reported
success with the WebService/HTTPService.

Me?  I use Flex 1.5 every day and it works great.  At night, I moonlight
in
Flex 2, but she's still alpha, so we have a ways to go.

The bad news is, for those client developers (like me) who only care
about
the client, Flex 1.5 has the server requirement.  However, you can still

snag SWF's off of the server once compiled as well as to show clients of

what's possible.  Good news, she works great, HTTPService (GET/POST)
works,
WebService works, and RemoteObject works with AMFPHP, OpenAMF, and
ColdFusion.

Hope that helps some.  Feel free to post more questions.

----- Original Message -----
From: "BCichowlas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Having hard time understanding what features are
available to whom when and how


Hi!

I'm an independent developer trying to put together an RIA demo for
potential investors in a proposed enterprise.  This proposed
enterprise is not a software company but would make heavy use of an
RIA application.

My most reasonable choices seem to be Flex, Laszlo or Ajax (in its
many variations).  I spent the last week with the Iteration Two Flex
book, downloading what is available freely to developers from the
Macromedia/Adobe site.

As part of my demo, I need to be able to change the color of irregular
small shapes.  The shapes themselves are known in advance and don't
change.  For the sake of discussion, it is as if I had an outline of
New England, divided into the six New England states and I wanted to
be able to choose one of eight colors for each of the states based on
user interaction.

After looking at the complexities of Ajax, Flex seemed like an ideal
choice.  Since I develop under Eclipse and since the 2.0 alpha seemed
like a generally usable version, it was my first choice.  However, the
examples in the Iteration Two book seem to be written for 1.0 or 1.5,
and I spent quite a while trying to run them under 2.0 with varying
degrees of success.

My database needs for this demo application are modest, but I did want
to be able to use RemoteObject.  I was never able to get anything
using RemoteObject to operate successfully.  I was developing under
Eclipse and using the "Run Flex application" to try to run my
application.  I'm not sure exactly what runtime environment this
results in, but I had been successful at getting some small forms
running successfully and trading string messages with the server.

Is RemoteObject supposed to be possible using only the 2.0 alpha
materials?  If not, what do I need?  The Cold Fusion server
extensions?  The Enterprise version?  Is what I need available now?
Does it cost money just to use for a demo?  Are there some examples of
using a RemoteObject under 2.0 that I could try under Eclipse?  Should
I be using 1.5 instead?

I am wondering if my expectations of the 2.0 alpha are inappropriate
for programming a demo now and in January 2006.  I'm not a Cold Fusion
user and have only a rudimentary understanding of its operation.  I'm
now thinking that I should use Ajax or possibly Laszlo, but would
listen carefully to any argument that Flex is the right choice.

Thanks,
Bruce








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