Yeah I have a bit of an opinion on those pesky web services :)

I agree with most of this thread.  Stick with open standards, use best
of breed services (I consider Hibernate/Spring a service not a
framework per se), and keep extensability in mind.

Honestly with Flex2 the ability to justify an open sources Flex
application is pretty viable.  

As for the Java community.... I'd be a good candidate to be that
evangelist.  I just don't know if I have the emotional strength. <wink>

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--- In [email protected], Douglas Knudsen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah, seems better to target Java as middle ware.  Probably stay clear
> of any frameworks though to make it lighter in weight.  Thanks for the
> info...
> 
> > People say that web services are the slowest alternative for
interfacing,
> > but I'm having very good experiences with it with respect to
performance.
> > Can anyone tell me why remoting (AMF framework?) is preferred?
Does anyone
> > have benchmarks on this?
> 
> Adobe has info on this and preach use of AMF for speed.  This is
> talked about around this list a bit already...some guy named Dave
> might have said something :)  I'm thinking for an open sourced
> project, web services is the way to go, should make it easier to plug
> in different middle-wares.
> 
> DK
> 
> 
> On 1/3/06, Franck de Bruijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Since you are writing an open source application, I would stick as
much as
> > possible to open source frameworks and tools.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm currently prototyping a Flex 2 application on the following
software
> > stack:
> >
> > Frontend: Flex 2
> > Interface towards backend: Web services with Apache Axis
> > Middleware: Hibernate
> > Wiring: plain java, but this is not so modern. So, maybe you will
prefer
> > Spring.
> > Database: any one you prefer. For the prototype I'm using HSQLDB.
> > Building: Maven 2
> > Developing: Flex 2 Builder (standalone) and Eclipse WTP
(unfortunately they
> > do not work together yet)
> >
> >
> >
> > For the build part I'm not satisfied yet. Maybe I'll write my own
Maven 2
> > plugin for Flex 2 applications. I'll keep you posted on that.
> >
> >
> >
> > People say that web services are the slowest alternative for
interfacing,
> > but I'm having very good experiences with it with respect to
performance.
> > Can anyone tell me why remoting (AMF framework?) is preferred?
Does anyone
> > have benchmarks on this?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Franck
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen
> >  Sent: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 15:41
> >  To: [email protected]
> >  Subject: [flexcoders] open sourced Flex app
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, so I want to mess around building something to let everyone in the
> >  community have.  Using Flex 2....what to use on the backend? 
With DAO
> >  Factories, I suppose any back end DB will do, eh?  start with MySQL
> >  and fill in for others.  Now what about the middle ware?  Java,
> >  ColdFusion, etc...????  What would be a good popular fit, eh?  Your
> >  thoughts?
> >
> >  --
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