The integration comes in the fact that the flash player inherits the HTTP stack of the underlying browser. What that means is that any data service call, whether <mx:RemoteObject/>, <mx:HttpService/> or <mx:WebService/> make calls on the same HTTP Session containing the same j_sessionid cookie value. That might seem quite simple on the face of it, but it is not. It has some incredibly powerful ramifications.
For instance, there is not simple web services authentication specification. (yeah ok, WS-Security but I said simple). What many people (as we have seen in posts around this place) do is to pass the current user credentials as a part of the web service call. Effectively a parameters. Why? Since the HTTP transport inherited the j_sessionid context, the container is very aware of who the current user is. Not only does it simplify your API but more importantly it reduces a nefarious users ability to hijack sessions etc. Now as for the setUsername() "custom" auth integration, remember that is really only used for/needed for <mx:RemoteObject/> and for only one simple reason. See the AMF gateway uses only one URL for all remote obect calls. Since J2EE security requires implementation by url-pattern, there is no way to lock down different services in different ways. Hence the security is handled by the AMF gateway servlet and servlet filters. If it werent for this limitation, you wouldn't have any need for the custom auth. Yes, there is some more code-level integration in the proxy. For instance the HttpService and WebService proxy servlet propogates the j_sessionid to the back-end service implementations. (or it should, there are a few bugs in 1.5 we found which Adobe addressed for us in propogating that session). Generally however we simply by-pass the proxy and make direct calls where feasable. Another huge advantage os this seamless inheritence of the j_sessionid context is that i makes integrating the RIA with any third party j2EE based applications a dream. For instance, we've done a lot of work integrating the RIA with third party products from folks like Jive Software and Atlassian Software. We can have the RIA participating is broad (even distributed) Single Sign on implementations across multiple applications. We can take an existing HTML front-ended "engine" and very simply plug in a RIA user experience instead. Flex and the Flash Player could have very easily been implemented in such a way that the movie does not open connections using the same HTTP session as the main browser. Luckily the Macromedia/Adobe folks made the right choice, and the amount of power it unleashes is limitless. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Knudsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > random thoughts...in no way construed to be a instigation..... > > Is using FORM or BASIC really an integration of Flex and J2EE though? > Seems to be no different then HTML, does one claim that HTML and J2EE > integrate well? Hmm...just some thoughts. Now, if you use the > setusernamepassword() in Flex, isn't that integration with J2EE? > > On another note, I don't see why a CF developer couldn't setup J2EE > security and use the FORM or BASIC method with Flex, eh? Might need a > little code to setup a session based on a jsessionid. > > > DK > > On 3/4/06, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tracy, > > > > Yep this is definately coming out from us as Carson said. I'll post > > here when its been published. I've been thinking a lot about it > > recently. I think its really important to show it from a Flex login > > form also. Its such an awesome example of how well Flex just > > seamlessly integrates into J2EE, as well as how J2EE benefits from the > > real RIA experience of Flex. > > > > > > -- > > Dave Wolf > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Carson Hager" <carson.hager@> > > wrote: > > > > > > We actually have an article coming out on this for DevNet in a couple > > > months. The problem is that all J2EE containers have their own way of > > > configuring these things. Yes, from a J2EE "deployment" standpoint, a > > > web.xml is the same across all app servers but post deployment, per the > > > J2EE spec, the server is not required to depend upon web.xml any more. > > > That being said, the best we could do is to provide a sample web app > > > that you could then deploy using your J2EE containers deployment method > > > but at that point, tweeking the confguration would be server specific. > > > > > > > > > Carson > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > Carson Hager > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com <http://www.cynergysystems.com/> > > > > > > Email: carson.hager@ > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > > Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Tracy Spratt > > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:48 PM > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, guys, would it be possible to come up with a simple, but full > > > example? A step by step, keystroke by keystroke tutorial, that assumes > > > no understanding of J2EE containers? It would have no options, no > > > decisions, just do-this-and-it-will-work. A "hello, world" of J2EE > > > authentication? > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a Flex IU would be ideal, if that does not complicate matters too > > > much. > > > > > > > > > > > > Flex has forced a lot of folks into the J2EE world, and we need J2EE for > > > dummies in a bad way! > > > > > > > > > > > > Tracy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Carson Hager > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:11 PM > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > It can be html or even a flex form that simply posts to > > > j_security_check. > > > > > > > > > Carson > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > Carson Hager > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > > > Email: carson.hager@ > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY ext. 89 > > > Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Thu Mar 02 23:11:04 2006 > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > But Dave described using a cusom screen instead of the grey > > > security/login popup thingy. In the web.xml settings you can set the > > > URL of a custom form for login. This form can be in HTML or whatever, > > > eh? > > > > > > DK > > > > > > > > > On 3/2/06, Dimitrios Gianninas <dimitrios.gianninas@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > > > I don't disagree with you, that will work and I have seen it work. But > > > I don't like the little pop-up challenge window. For lack of a better > > > term, I wanted a more "presentable" login screen for my end users, so > > > with the wonderful component model that Flex provides, I created a > > > LoginView component that all our UIs re-use... see I didn't write much > > > code either :) Is my way more complex? Perhaps just a wee little bit, > > > but not very much. Both ways work, just a matter of choice I guess. > > > > > > > > Jimmy > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Dave Wolf > > > > Sent: Thu 3/2/2006 9:20 PM > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > I am trying to understand why we all keep trying to make this so > > > > complex rather then taking advantage of the functionality that is > > > > already in Flex and your container (JRun, Tomcat etc). J2EE has a > > > > resonably simple model for handling authentication and access control > > > > that alleviates the requirement to write your own login logic, to > > > > write specific login remote objects, use custom authentication etc. > > > > > > > > Effectively you only need to do the following. > > > > > > > > 1) Secure specific URL patterns via settings in the web applications > > > > deployment descriptor (web.xml). I have in the past, and would now be > > > > more then happy to show how to configure these. > > > > > > > > 2) Upon trying to load a secured URL pattern, the container will > > > > "challenge" you by presenting a login screen. We have developed these > > > > screens in Flex. Effectively you create a simple form with two input > > > > fields name j_username and j_password. You post those values to the > > > > url /j_security_check. Now the container handles all your > > > authentication. > > > > > > > > Once completed the container will provide you access to the secured > > > > resource and will populate all the in-memory structures to completely > > > > support runtime interrogation of securerity context. > > > > > > > > Flex integrates so well and so transparantly with J2EE and its > > > > security model it is foolish not to take advantage of that. > > > > > > > > I dunno.... I'm an odd duck. I like writing less code :) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dave Wolf > > > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > > > > > Email: dave.wolf@ > > > > Office: 866-CYNERGY > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Dimitrios Gianninas" > > > > <dimitrios.gianninas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Allister, > > > > > > > > > > Ok let me clear things up for you. We use WebLogic 8.1 around here, > > > > in Flex I present a login screen to the user where they enter their > > > > credentials. These credentials are passed to the server (using a > > > > RemoteObject - it is not secure, but only has one method doLogin() ) > > > > where using a WebLogic API I authenticate the user, so WebLogic knows > > > > who he is and a HTTP session is created. > > > > > > > > > > Then all the other RemoteObjects are locked down and when the > > > > session expires, I kick them back out to the login screen (where I > > > > wrote below "// do whatever you want here, its a free country"), all > > > > still in Flex. > > > > > > > > > > Does this make more sense? > > > > > > > > > > Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas > > > > > Optimal Payments > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of allister_dickson > > > > > Sent: Thu 3/2/2006 6:13 PM > > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dimitrios, > > > > > > > > > > From reading through your earlier posts I get the impression that > > > > you are > > > > > using a two methods to authenticate users. Initially, you > > > > authenticate the > > > > > user using standard J2EE form based authentication. Then when using > > > a > > > > > service if you receive an authentication fault you use a flex popup > > > > window > > > > > to re authenticate. Is this correct? > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you get a session time out do you resubmit the original > > > service > > > > > request after re-authentication? If so, what is the best way to > > > > generically > > > > > resubmit the request? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Allister > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Dimitrios Gianninas <mailto:dimitrios.gianninas@> > > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:59 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > I put theh handling of the failed authentication directly in the > > > > > Services.mxml... simple and works. > > > > > > > > > > <mx:Script> > > > > > function handleRemoteFault( event ):Void { > > > > > if( event.fault.faultcode == "Client.Authentication" || > > > > > event.fault.faultcode == "401" ) { > > > > > // do whatever you want here, its a free country > > > > > } > > > > > else { > > > > > event.call.faultHandler( event ); > > > > > } > > > > > } > > > > > </mx:Script> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas > > > > > RIA Developer > > > > > Optimal Payments Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:53 AM > > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, I got auth working using the approach you mentioned > > > > > > > > > > CallbackHandler handler = new SimpleCallbackHandler( userName, > > > > password ); > > > > > Subject subject = Authentication.login( handler ); > > > > > ServletAuthentication.runAs( subject, httpRequest ); > > > > > > > > > > silightly different looking under JRun of course. Now, I'm horribly > > > > stuck > > > > > on getting the roles of the user after logging in. I have set up > > > Roles > > > > > under teh JMC, JRuns instance manager. I tested it all with BASIC > > > > auth, so > > > > > I know the autentication and authorisation are working. I've been > > > > working > > > > > all week on getting the roles for the user after authenticating and > > > > can't > > > > > find squat of an example. Any hints perhaps? > > > > > > > > > > On a similar note... Using service.setUserNamePassword() in Flex I > > > > know it > > > > > will authenticate a user, does it also authorise the user by > > > > gathering up > > > > > the roles defined in the containers JAAS config? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and one more concerning cairingrom.... to use > > > > service.setUserNamePassword() > > > > > effectively, it appears you would need to modify the onfault event > > > of a > > > > > service in services.mxml file to check for a failed authentication. > > > > If not > > > > > here then every command using the service would need this check, eh? > > > > What > > > > > other way can this be done possibly? Create a AuthCommand abstract > > > > class to > > > > > extend or something? > > > > > > > > > > DK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/7/05, Dimitrios Gianninas <dimitrios.gianninas@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ah yes about accessing the session, I read that article as well. I > > > > plan to > > > > > change this in the future, just haven't gotten there yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas > > > > > RIA Developer > > > > > Optimal Payments Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:54 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=9636f34e > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=9636f34e&p > > > ss=r > > > > > ss_flex_9636f34e> &pss=rss_flex_9636f34e > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the hint about using JAAS via CallBackHandler, etc in th > > > > eother > > > > > thread...I have not got it working 100% on JRun yet...but still > > > > banging away > > > > > at it. > > > > > > > > > > DK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/26/05, Dimitrios Gianninas <dimitrios.gianninas@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Where did you hear that it was not the approach to take? We have it > > > > working > > > > > this way for one of our projects. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, when you user source="servlet", you must configure the source > > > > attribute > > > > > in the remote-objects section of the flex-config.xml. You have to > > > > set it to > > > > > the name of your context. So if your web application context is > > > > > "localhost:8080/batman", then you must set: > > > > > > > > > > <source>batman</source> > > > > > > > > > > or for no security at all (don't do this in production): > > > > > > > > > > <source>*</source> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas > > > > > RIA Developer > > > > > Optimal Payments Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > > > > > <mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > Douglas Knudsen > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:51 PM > > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was under the impression this was not the approach to take in 1.5. > > > > IIRC, > > > > > when messing with source= "servlet" I had to add some info to the > > > > > flex.config file. Can you comment on this? Just curious as there > > > > seems to > > > > > be so many ways to do this. > > > > > > > > > > DK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/24/05, Dimitrios Gianninas <dimitrios.gianninas@ > > > > > <mailto:dimitrios.gianninas@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ok here is how to do this. > > > > > > > > > > Basically you will have a login.jsp page that will authenticate the > > > user > > > > > using FORM authentication. Once the user has logged in successfully, > > > > then > > > > > you must retrieve the user information from your DB and save it to > > > the > > > > > session, this might look something like this: > > > > > > > > > > UserVO user = userAdmin.getUser( userName ); > > > > > session.setAttribute( "user", userLogin ); > > > > > > > > > > Now that the user object is in the session, once the Flex app loads, > > > > you can > > > > > retrieve it from the session and make use of it as you please. First > > > you > > > > > must declare a RO that will connect with the current session: > > > > > > > > > > <mx:RemoteObject id="sessionSvlt" source="servlet" > > > > > result= "handleSessionResult( event.result)" > > > > > fault= "handleSessionFault(event)" > > > > > showBusyCursor="true" /> > > > > > > > > > > And then you get the object from the session like so: > > > > > > > > > > sessionSvlt.session( "get", "user" ); > > > > > > > > > > Dimitrios "Jimmy" Gianninas > > > > > RIA Developer > > > > > Optimal Payments Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > > > > > <mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > jagabcdeff > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 7:08 AM > > > > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [flexcoders] Authentication with Macromedia Flex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I working on small application. > > > > > > > > > > The flow is like Macromedia Flex<->Spring<->Hibernate<->DB using > > > Jboss > > > > > Server. > > > > > Now i have to use JAAS to this application. > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me how to do authentication when user login with > > > username > > > > > and password . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Jagan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > > > > FAQ: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt> > > > > > Search Archives: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > Web site design development > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Web+site+design+development&w1=Web+ > > > site > > > > > > > > > > > > +design+development&w2=Computer+software+development&w3=Software+design+ > > > and+ > > > > > > > > > > > > development&w4=Macromedia+flex&w5=Software+development+best+practice&c=5 > > > &s=1 > > > > > 66&.sig=L-4QTvxB_quFDtMyhrQaHQ> Computer software development > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Computer+software+development&w1=We > > > b+si > > > > > > > > > > > > te+design+development&w2=Computer+software+development&w3=Software+desig > > > n+an > > > > > > > > > > > > d+development&w4=Macromedia+flex&w5=Software+development+best+practice&c > > > =5&s > > > > > =166&.sig=lvQjSRfQDfWudJSe1lLjHw> Software design and > > > development > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Software+design+and+development&w1= > > > Web+ > > > > > > > > > > > > site+design+development&w2=Computer+software+development&w3=Software+des > > > ign+ > > > > > > > > > > > > and+development&w4=Macromedia+flex&w5=Software+development+best+practice > > > &c=5 > > > > > &s=166&.sig=1pMBCdo3DsJbuU9AEmO1oQ> > > > > > Macromedia flex > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Macromedia+flex&w1=Web+site+design+ > > > deve > > > > > > > > > > > > lopment&w2=Computer+software+development&w3=Software+design+and+developm > > > ent& > > > > > > > > > > > > w4=Macromedia+flex&w5=Software+development+best+practice&c=5&s=166&.sig= > > > OO6n > > > > > PIrz7_EpZI36cYzBjw> Software development best practice > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Software+development+best+practice&; > > > w1=W > > > > > > > > > > > > eb+site+design+development&w2=Computer+software+development&w3=Software+ > > > desi > > > > > > > > > > > > gn+and+development&w4=Macromedia+flex&w5=Software+development+best+pract > > > ice& > > > > > c=5&s=166&.sig=f89quyyulIDsnABLD6IXIw> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! 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