I believe the same problem exists with dynamically generated HTML pages. Some very complex database-driven sites are made of only one physical page, with content for all the different views (and the view templates) being pulled from the database. This way the only content that get indexed by Google is content associated the default view. 

Color Blind Bots?
How about inserting HTML text contents in your index.htm in white font (on white background)? The index.htm would load the Flash SWF object but it would also contain text that is only visible to the search engine crawler. 

I think Google would index such page normally as it would any other HTML page, and when people click on the link in the Google search results they will be sent to index.htm and the SWF will load normally. They won't see the text content because it's white on white. I'm sure you can disable the vertical scroll bar.

Would this work?

=)

Marc

Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This may need to be clarified.  I think it’s one thing if you have a Flash site and HTML site and allow users to visit both but only let Google search the HTML site.  What it means is that when a user finds a page in Google they will click on the link and go to the HTML site.  Google has been very clear that presenting HTML to the crawler but then having a search link take you to a Flash site is not allowed (it’s called cloaking).  Unfortunately cloaking is exactly the kind of thing that would solve our problem J  So we need to work with the vendors directly to come up with acceptable solutions.
 
Matt
 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:22 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] SEO strategies for RIA?
 
Jim Kremens asked Google how to index Flash sites.  Here is quoted response from the Google Team:
 
"The practice of creating HTML copies of these Flash pages for our
crawler is actually our recommended solutions to this kind of issue.
If you do this, please be sure to include a robots.txt file that
disallows the Flash pages in order to ensure that these pages are not
seen as duplicate content."
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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] SEO strategies for RIA?
 
Hi John
Make sure that your hosting HTML page has good title, metadata,
filename, and especially good inbound links with anchor text of your
desired search terms.

Ok but what if we want the news on our RIA site to be indexed by Google, sure we can show another content to Google spiders but AFAIK it will be treated as a fraud, BMW site pagerank was set to zero by Google recently for the similar things.
Does Adobe planing some mechanisms to deal with it in partnership with search engines? I think the best idea is just show them HTML to index, but that HTML shoud replicate the Flex site content, all we need is just not be treated as a fraud if we really just replicate text content availiable on the same link for the common user.

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