We definitely don't want to segue this into a discussion on how we "feel" about recruiters...



On 4/12/06, Jeremy Rottman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Very funny stuff guys. It always makes me laugh, when I get a call on
my cell asking me if I am avaliable for a contract. Even more so when
I am sitting in my office and the ask if I want a contract.

I personally hate recruiting/placement companies. To many times, I
have met with them only to find out they know little to nothing about
the job that needs to be done. In the end, more often then not I turn
them down.



--- In [email protected], "Jason Hawryluk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, your right, and I never looked at it that way. I've always
worked for
> myself in this field.
>
>
>
> Thanks for clarifying that.
>
>
>
> Jason
>   -----Message d'origine-----
>   De : [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]De la
> part de Brendan Meutzner
>   Envoyé : mercredi 12 avril 2006 15:44
>   À : [email protected]
>   Objet : Re: [flexcoders] **JOB **Flex developer needed ASAP
(Contract to
> hire!!).
>
>
>   Jason,
>
>   You can always live by my rule of thumb...
>
>   Look into the individual/company posting the job, determine if
they're a
> recruiter/placement company, and if so, assume they don't know what
the hell
> they're talking about when it comes to the project they're trying to
fill.
> 99% of the time, this little rule turns out accurate.
>
>   Also, when placing you on a position, most recruiting companies will
> assume a 3-6 month duration on a contract because it's either a
probationary
> period (and they don't want to guarantee more than that) or because
they've
> got a contract-to-hire deal with the end employer after this amount
of time.
>
>   Brendan
>
>
>
>   On 4/12/06, Jason Hawryluk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     Sorry if this sounds harsh, or like a rant...
>
>
>
>     You know I think about this kind of thing, and always wonder who in
> their right mind consultant, or not would sign on to an already
"presumed" 6
> month project. Unless they have really done their homework
(unlikely) how do
> they know that 6 months is enough.
>
>
>
>     So what they really should say is your going to develop this miracle
> product, and oh it must be done in 6 months. Ready to deploy. Then they
> plunk the old "needed ASAP" onto that.
>
>
>
>     I smell disaster about to happen.
>
>
>
>     If you read it it says prototype, ok that makes sense 6months for a
> prototype no problem. Then the next phrase has "rollout"?. Then the big
> hook. "Since client has already defined design specs".
>
>
>
>     So to summarize they have a demand for a report generator
"prototype"
> that will be "rolled" out "live" in "6months" based on the "clients
specs"
> authored by an individual that most likely has no knowledge of Flex
at all.
>
>
>
>     I don't mean to be a pain but, could you please repeat the question?
>
>
>
>     I just don't get it. Maybe it's just me. :)
>
>     Jason
>       -----Message d'origine-----
>       De : [email protected] [mailto:
[email protected] ]De
> la part de wessam_jad
>       Envoyé : mardi 11 avril 2006 20:01
>       À : [email protected]
>       Objet : [flexcoders] **JOB **Flex developer needed ASAP
(Contract to
> hire!!).
>
>
>
>
>     Position Needed: Flex Developer
>     Duration:6 months contract to hire.
>
>     Role Description – Consultant will be responsible for creating a new
>     reporting interface prototype using Macromedia Flex. Prototype will
>     most likely be developed using Flex 1.5. Subsequent versions could
>     be developed in Flex 2.0. Consultant will be responsible for
>     upgrade, replication, and rollout. Consultant will also participate
>     in daily knowledge transfer sessions. Since client has already
>     defined design specs, consultant is generally expected to complete
>     assigned development tasks.
>
>     Desired Skills:
>     -6 months Macromedia Flex 1.5 / 2.0 development experience
>     -data warehouse, business intelligence experience
>     -Excellent communication skills
>
>     send your resume ASAP to wjad(at)esginc(dot)com
>     www.esginc.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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