Thanks for the responses guys,

Dimitrios: 
Yes, the majority of my views are updated through binding to the 
ModelLocator.  However, there are certain functions that are soley 
view-related (like setFocus(), filtering a DataGrid, updating a 
search parameter VO with view component values prior to executing a 
search command), that imo don't merit creating a command to 
perform.  These kind of functions could just be located in a script 
tag inside the view.  But, if the functions are numerous, the code 
becomes more readable if a seperate class is used.

Bjorn:
I agree that a command shouldn't interrogate a view.  That would 
defeat the encapsulation.  For the most part though, the command 
should update the ModelLocator and the ModelLocator should update 
the view.

Jesse:
As always, you crack me up.  In the situations that I mentioned 
above, I assume that you are using a ViewLocator - uid approach.  
This is probably more efficient and centralized than using 
ViewHelpers.  Besides, I really don't want to deal with Satan 
spawn.  Care to share a small sample of your approach?

All in all, this isn't a huge issue.  Out of my current 300 views, 
I've only found the need to use three ViewHelpers.  My questions are 
more theoretical and best practice oriented.  Good stuff to know 
when scalability is an issue.  Also, I'm still not sure what Alex 
Uhlmann meant by "the ViewHelper adds and removes itself from the 
ViewLocator".  Guess I need to take a trip back to the Cairngorm 
source.

Thanks again for your answers.  I was hoping that Steven or 
Alistaire had time to chime in here, but I realize that they are 
very busy these days.

Cheers,
Tim Hoff


--- In [email protected], "JesterXL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ViewHelpers == spawn of satan.  Nothing here but bloated 
code.  "Seperation 
> of concerns" doesn't count here; it's just something they say to 
make 
> themselves feel better by using them.
> 
> ViewLocators, to me are only justified in extreme use cases.  
Having other 
> View's, or even Commands specifically telling other views to do 
certain 
> things are bad practice, but I have seen times where there is just 
no other 
> way.  The rest of the time, databinding and combinations of 
getter / setters 
> should accomplish what you want.  While their use should be 
discouraged, 
> I'll be the first to admit they are useful and lifesavers when you 
need 
> them.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim Hoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 6:05 AM
> Subject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm2: ViewLocator - ViewHelper
> 
> 
> I've recently been toying with the concepts of ViewHelper vs.
> ViewLocator.  Alex Ulmann posted, "the ViewHelper adds and removes
> itself from the ViewLocator", in his Cairngorm 2 (for Flex 2) -
> Overview and Migration Path.  I haven't seen any examples yet that
> illustrate this method.  Understandably, the example pool and
> documentation for this kind of thing is small but growing.  So, I 
was
> wondering if the authors of Cairngorm had any advise/guidance for 
this
> topic.  Of course it's a matter of scale, but in an enterprise
> application, what is recommended as best practice for the use of
> ViewLocator and/or ViewHelpers?  I'm sure that there are 
forthcoming
> books that cover this area, but feedback here might promote better
> understanding.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tim Hoff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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