WRT Remote Object: with ColdFusion 7.0.2, you get Flash Remoting for free. With a Java or other backend, you'll need FDS, correct. CF 7.0.2 includes parts of the Flex implementation natively that support Remote Object calls, data type marshalling, security, CFC mapping, etc.
The CF Flex Builder plugins also can auto-generate your AS3 and CFC VO's for you by right-clicking on a DB table in the CF RDS View...presto-magic. You can also auto-generate the entire FDS Assembler CFC-based backend via the same method (many 100's of lines of pre-tested best- pratice code is generated for you...just wire up the UI and off you go. Damon --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Battershall, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jessie, > > Thanks for the clarification. > > What I do not see in the Flex2 docs is the ability to use Remote object > without FDS. Would you have to write your own custom class to do your > remoting calls? I've done such in Flash. > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of JesterXL > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:02 PM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs > > > Just to be clear, you don't need FDS to use AMF3 & ColdFusion's > ValueObjects, only CF 7.0.2. > > I'm with you on price, though. They'll end up paying more in the end as > you > spend copious amounts of time writing ValueObject conversion code, and > debugging string vs. number conversion errors, but it's hard to justify > without someone who can clearly articulate to the client by spending > more > money up front, they'll save money in the end. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Battershall, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:54 PM > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs > > > Jessie, > > I hear you on this - I've been dealing with the same sort of thing > myself, but I have a client who is looking for the low cost of entry > solution and CF7 upgrade and FDS would appear to be out of the question. > That's excellent that you can set encoding however - that opens things > up for this project. > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of JesterXL > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:46 PM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs > > > Ability to pass custom objects. I've written over 800 lines of code for > > Factories to convert CFC structs to ValueObjects in the past 6 months. > It sucks, is a pain in the ass, and it sucks... did I mention I hate > debugging data-type conversions? I'm sure with AMF3's 30-50% reducation > in filesize over the wire vs. AMF0, performance would be better too. > > ColdFusion 7.0.2, 4 teh w1n!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Battershall, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:40 PM > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs > > > Jessie, > > When you say, "talking to the old sucks from a client-side perspective" > are we talking performance or the ability to pass custom objects or > what? > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of JesterXL > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:20 PM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs > > > Flex 2 can utilize AMF0 or AMF3; you just set the ObjectEncoding. > > CF 7.0.2 can use AMF3; anything before only AMF0. > > Flex 2 can talk to both old CF and new CF. Talking to the old sucks > from a client-side perspective. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Battershall, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:08 PM > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Still Fuzzy about Flex 2.0 and CFCs > > > OK, gotcha, but I suppose the other issue is what version of AMF is > availble server-side. 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