i tried your links out (btw the first 2 are pointing to the same 
example). on my normal development machine (6 months old with all 
the trimmings) performance is very quick as expected.

but when i tried it from an old laptop (4-5 years old) it felt like 
one of my flex 1.5 datagrids....very slow and sluggish scrolling.

made me appreciate how much of a good job adobe did in flex2.

regards
bod


--- In [email protected], "Anatole Tartakovsky" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How is the performance on your machine of the samples in my 
links ? - trying
> to isolate player/setStyle performance from application code 
efficiency.
> Thank you,
> Anatole
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/28/06, Pan Troglodytes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >    For reference, my testing was done on a dual core athlon 64 
4400 with a
> > geforce 7800 gt and 2 gigs of ram.  Hardware is not a limiting 
factor.
> >
> >  On 7/28/06, Anatole Tartakovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >  Matt,
> > > I placed typical business case to show the performance issues 
based on
> > > hardware used:
> > >
> > > case 1 : basic  
grid<http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performance.h
tml>- no formatting or styling
> > > case 2:  basic grid with typical 
formatting<http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_perform
ance.html>- no styling
> > > case 3:  typical usage of formatting and 
styling<http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/performance/grid_performanc
e.html>- IMPLEMENTED VIA RUN-TIME CSS AND COMPUTED EXPRESSIONS - very
> > > straightforward code
> > >
> > > While performance is reasonable on midrange 2 year old PC, my 
business
> > > laptop is very sluggish , however multimedia one with good 
graphics chip and
> > > slower CPU works faster then PC.
> > >
> > > Here is the source for the business case:
> > >
> > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> > > <mx:Application xmlns:mx="http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml "
> > >      xmlns="*" layout="vertical"
> > >      xmlns:lib="com.theriabook.controls.*"
> > > viewSourceURL="srcview/index.html">
> > > <mx:Style>
> > >     .dgHeaderStyle {
> > >         textAlign:center;
> > >         fontWeight : bold;
> > >         backgroundAlpha:.5;
> > >     }
> > > </mx:Style>
> > > <mx:Script>
> > >     <![CDATA[
> > >         include "Employees.inc";
> > >         private function salaryColor(item:*):int{ return 
item.SALARY
> > > <50000?0xff0000:0x0000ff;}
> > >     ]]>
> > > </mx:Script>
> > >     <lib:DataGridEx  id="a"  width="100%" height="100%"
> > > headerStyleName="dgHeaderStyle"
> > >             dataProvider="{getEmployees()}">
> > >         <lib:columns>
> > >             <mx:Array>
> > >                 <mx:DataGridColumn   dataField="EMP_LNAME"   />
> > >                 <mx:DataGridColumn   dataField="EMP_FNAME"  />
> > >                 <lib:DataGridColumnEx
> > > dataField="DEPT_ID"
> > > 
props="{{&apos;resource&apos;:&apos;employee&apos;,&apos;keyColumn&ap
os;:&apos;dept_id&apos;,&apos;autoFill&apos;:&apos;true&apos;}}"/>
> > >
> > >                 <lib:DataGridColumnEx    dataField="PHONE"
> > > formatString="phone" />
> > >                 <lib:DataGridColumnEx    
dataField="BENE_DAY_CARE"
> > >                     itemRenderer=" 
com.theriabook.controls.CheckBox"
> > >                     rendererIsEditor="true"  
editorDataField="value"
> > >                     textAlign="center" paddingLeft="5"
> > >
> > > 
expando="{{&apos;onValue&apos;:&apos;Y&apos;,&apos;offValue&apos;:&ap
os;N&apos;}}"
> > > />
> > >                 <lib:DataGridColumnEx    dataField="SS_NUMBER"
> > > formatString="ssn"  />
> > >                 <lib:DataGridColumnEx    dataField="SALARY"
> > > formatString="currency"
> > >
> > > 
styles="{{&apos;color&apos;:salaryColor,&apos;fontWeight&apos;:functi
on
> > > (item:*):String{ return item.SALARY > 50000?{ return 
item.SALARY >
> > > 50000?&apos;bold&apos;:&apos;normal&apos;} }}"
> > >                 />
> > >                 <lib:DataGridColumnEx    dataField="SALARY"
> > > formatString="currency"  editable="true"    >
> > >                         <lib:styles>
> > >                             <mx:Object 
backgroundColor="{salaryColor}"
> > > backgroundAlpha=".3"/>
> > >                         </lib:styles>
> > >                 </lib:DataGridColumnEx>
> > >                 <lib:DataGridColumnEx    dataField="START_DATE"
> > > formatString="shortdate"/>
> > >
> > >                 <!--lib:DataGridColumnEx    dataField="BONUS"
> > > formatString="currency"
> > >
> > > computedFields="{{&apos;BONUS&apos;:function(data:*):Number { 
return
> > > data.SALARY*.1;}}}"
> > >                 /-->
> > >             </mx:Array>
> > >         </lib:columns>
> > >     </lib:DataGridEx>
> > > </mx:Application>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/21/06, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Well DataGrid scrolling performance is something that 
we've spent
> > > > a lot of time tuning so I would love for us to get a full 
test case that we
> > > > can look at.  I saw in the thread you linked mentioning a 
1600x1200 monitor,
> > > > is the DataGrid taking up most of that real estate?  The 
more visible rows
> > > > the slower the scrolling will be.  Another thing you could 
look at is in
> > > > your setter for the data comparing against the old value and 
if it hasn't
> > > > changed not doing anything, it may be that it's invalidating 
too often?
> > > >  I'll ask one of the people who worked on performance if she 
has any
> > > > thoughts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > *From:* [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected] ]
> > > > *On Behalf Of *Pan Troglodytes
> > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:44 PM
> > > > *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > *Subject:* [flexcoders] performance issues
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, specifically I had a DataGrid using this for the 
itemRenderer:
> > > >
> > > > package nes {
> > > >
> > > >   import mx.controls.dataGridClasses.DataGridListData ;
> > > >   import mx.controls.Label;
> > > >
> > > >   public class SignColorItemRenderer extends Label {
> > > >     public var negativeColor:uint = 0xFF0000;
> > > >     public var positiveColor:uint = 0x008000;
> > > >     public var zeroColor:uint;
> > > >
> > > >     override public function set data(value:Object):void {
> > > >       super.data = value;
> > > >
> > > >       var n:Number = data[DataGridListData
(listData).dataField];
> > > >       if (n < 0)
> > > >         setStyle("color", negativeColor);
> > > >       else if (n > 0)
> > > >         setStyle("color", positiveColor);
> > > >       else if (n == 0)
> > > >         setStyle("color", zeroColor);
> > > >     }
> > > >   }
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > I brought it up in this thread:
> > > >
> > > > 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/43243;_ylc=X3oDMTM3c
WM2MG9mBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjg2MTY3BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDAwNzIwNw
Rtc2dJZAM0MzI2MwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzExNTI4NTY4NDUEdHBjSWQ
DNDMyNDM-
> > > >
> > > > I tried LOADS of different ways to do it.  I found that 
anytime I put
> > > > much of any extra code in, it took away from the 
responsiveness.  Even
> > > > replacing the above data procedure with just a single 
setStyle statement.
> > > > As I said, it's not horrible.  But I definitely notice it.
> > > >
> > > > The other main thing I can point out is some sluggishness 
when
> > > > resizing the browser window and having it resize/relayout 
the Flex app.  But
> > > > it's hard to tell how much of that is the browser and how 
much is Flex.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/20/06, *Matt Chotin* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can you provide a little more detail on the performance 
areas that are
> > > > hurting you?  If there's a sample that demonstrates the 
speed issue it may
> > > > be something we can look at.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: 
[email protected]
> > > > ] *On Behalf Of *Pan Troglodytes
> > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:49 PM
> > > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] So? What are folks here actually
> > > > building...?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, since I have never programmed in ActionScript at all, 
my
> > > > projects have served a dual purpose - functional and 
educational.  In other
> > > > words, some of the software may never see the light of day 
but that's okay -
> > > > at least it taught me how to build in Flex.
> > > >
> > > > My most "real" application has been an ad-hoc query 
builder.  We have
> > > > some financial reporting that it broken down into various 
fields: branch,
> > > > quarter, period, that kind of thing.  So I gave each field 
an accordion pane
> > > > and filled it with the values for that field.  Then I let 
the user
> > > > drag-n-drop the values for each field into another List, 
arranging them
> > > > hierarchically however they want.  This then feeds a sql 
statement that uses
> > > > group by and rollup to get all the data both on the detail 
level and
> > > > summarized by each parent level.
> > > >
> > > > I then feed that into a DataGrid that has many custom 
renderers.  The
> > > > main powerhouse is the "tree" renderer.  Basically, the 
first column down
> > > > the page looks like a tree of those key fields.  So if they 
chose to report
> > > > by quarter, then branch, then manager, it would look like:
> > > >
> > > > (view the following in a fixed width font)
> > > >                       Gross      Expenses   Profit
> > > > Total                 X          X          X
> > > >   1Q-2006             X          X          X
> > > >     Branch 1          X          X          X
> > > >       Jane Doe        X          X          X
> > > >       John Smith      X          X          X
> > > >     Branch 2          X          X          X
> > > >       Phil Johnson    X          X          X
> > > >   2Q-2006             X          X          X
> > > >     Branch 1          X          X          X
> > > >       Jane Doe        X          X          X
> > > >       John Smith      X          X          X
> > > >     Branch 2          X          X          X
> > > >       Phil Johnson    X          X          X
> > > >
> > > > I put in Xs because I got tired of making up stuff.  But you 
get the
> > > > picture.  It's basically very pivot-table-ish.  It's really 
the graphical
> > > > touches that seal the deal.  There's icons and animations 
and colors all
> > > > over the place.  Not too much, but more than I could have 
coded in the week
> > > > or so I've been building it.  I'm an experienced Delphi user 
and have to say
> > > > I'm really blown away by Flex.  Delphi is RAD but Flex is 
RAD^2.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, for my VERY basic advice on what I would put some 
effort into.
> > > > Well, first, fix the bugs that have come out here.  You have 
a pretty wide
> > > > base of components already and I would like them to be very 
stable.  Nothing
> > > > slows a developer down more than spending hours on a problem 
to only find
> > > > the bug isn't in his/her code.
> > > >
> > > > Second, I would REALLY like to see some optimization done.  
I know
> > > > this is going to be hard with the dynamic, frequently 
untyped nature of
> > > > Flex.  But some of the code runs painfully slow for what it 
does.  I'm still
> > > > not 100% happy with the speed of those custom itemRenderers 
in the grid.
> > > > And I stripped them down as far as they can go and it's not 
because I wrote
> > > > bad code.  Overall, the speed is good for an "internet 
application".
> > > > Internet apps get to make excuses.  But I'd like to get the 
speed good
> > > > enough to rival native desktop apps.  Sure, not on 
everything - but at least
> > > > on GUI graphics.
> > > >
> > > > Keep up the good work.  I haven't had this much fun with a 
new
> > > > language in a while...
> > > >
> > > > On 7/20/06, *David Mendels* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It has been less than a month since we shipped Flex, but I 
know many
> > > > folks on this list had projects they started back in the 
public beta time.
> > > > I know in many cases you may not be able to talk about what 
projects you are
> > > > working on, but for those who can I'd love to get a view 
onto what folks are
> > > > building.  We spent a long time (almost two years) on all 
the parts of the
> > > > Flex 2 product line (and the Flash Player 9) and it is very 
cool to see the
> > > > traffic here, the emergence of third party conferences like 
www.flexseminar.com
> > > > , the books coming out on Flex, the 60K plus downloads of 
the IDE in
> > > > the public beta, but we'd love to get a sense of what real 
applications
> > > > people are starting to build.  The team is already working 
on plans for
> > > > mid-term and longer term upgrades to Flex, and it helps us 
to really
> > > > understand what people are building.  So, if you are able to 
talk about what
> > > > you are building please do share--I think it would be very 
interesting for
> > > > the community and very valuable for us on the Flex team at 
Adobe.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --David
> > > >
> > > > Adobe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jason
> >
> > 
> >
>






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