My point wasnt that big app modularity isnt important. My only point is that if your app is 2 or 3 mb you can already modularize it with the current rsl technology whereas you cant modularize the flex framework at all currently. I understand that roger's stuff is going to make big app moduarity easier. But, again making something easier that is already possible, is different than making something that is impossible possible.

Flex 1.5 was clearly just an enterpise product. Flex 2.0 moved into the mainstream, and a lot of us are, I suspect, trying to figure out how to use it effectively for consumer facing applications, Flex is now the cornerstone of Flash application development, but for lots of applications 500-600 is too big for a consumer facing app.

The other thing is that for enterprise apps, if you did have to load 2-3 mb on an intranet, or even over the internet, its just not that big a deal.

Regards,
Hank

On 10/24/06, Carlos Rovira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hank,

Both issues are important. Flex is a product born for enterprise applications (for intranets, extranets,etc...).
It can be used for normal website as well, but maybe Adobe created it in the beggining to reach the big enterprise.
Big apps is the normal basis in this kind of projects and modular apps are a real must. The main reason is get better compiler times and productivity and then better performance. Maybe internet's homepage with a few controls and use cases is not the soul behind the flex framework, but I agree that it shuld be possible as well in order to get a real "flexible" technology.

Just my thoughts.

Best.

C.



On 10/24/06, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My situation is not a huge app, but I think probably fits in a fairly mainstream situation.

I have several "sections" that a user could access. I am most concerned about the access to my homepage which is going to get hit a lot. I really would like to have a homepage that was 200k rather than 600k. 400 of that 600 is probably framework. So I am trying to figure out how to have a high volume homepage that is reasonable, where a user can click and then suck in more code as they dig deeper. That said, my homepage does use a datagrid, which I suspect is pretty heavy. But part of the problem is not having a clear map as to what I might leave off the homepage that would substantially improve the size issue.

I think for people that have really huge apps, if their initial page load is 500k, and then the rest of their app gets loaded as needed, that there is already enough there with the current RSL and doc to do that.

I guess what I am saying is that I think my situation is in more need of help than people with really big apps because the really huge apps can already be done modularly. I understand that you are making it better. but making flex a viable homepage tool is really a bigger issue I think.

Regards,
Hank

On 10/23/06, Matt Chotin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The modules will help reduce your app and can be used to help reduce break the framework up as well so that only pieces that are needed will be in modules that you're using.  We will have improved support + docs for that in the next release.  We are also working on some ideas/documentation for breaking the framework up a little more.  With that said, if you are building a single app, you won't get much benefit from an RSL.  Only if your app is truly big, then it's the module approach you want more than RSL.  RSLs come into play when you start having multiple apps that re-use the same code.

 

Matt

 


From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of hank williams
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Deployment Best Practices

 

I have been glancing at Roger's blog, for the last month or two, but the one thing I am not clear on is whether the work that he is doing reduces the all or nothing nature of the actual flex framework? I am very clear on how to modularize my own code, but if the flex framework's dependecies are such that for anything meaningful you need to load 300-400k of library then none of my modularization makes much difference because my code is small relative to the size of the library. While he acknowledges the problem, I can't find where Roger discusses much about whether all of the flex framework really needs to be dragged in the way it is now, and if his new stuff helps to fix this.

Regards
Hank

On 10/23/06, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

 

Roger's blog might be helpful: http://blogs.adobe.com/rgonzalez/flex/

 

-David

 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Kirby
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Deployment Best Practices

I'm about to deploy my first Flex application.

I have tried to modularize my components as much as possible.

What I'm looking for is some best practices on when/why you create RSLs, SWFs, etc to "break up" your application so it runs efficiently.  I know there are some trade-offs here... just looking for some reference guidelines for the "ilities" ( scalability, maintainability, etc.).

Thanks.

.j

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