btw, all I own is my keyboard.
Tim, I think most of us heard what you said. People are funny, remember this buddy. Sometimes just laying off the keyboard is the best and let the temper wind storms(i was going to say tantrums but, we are adults here) subside. Peace, Mike On 1/9/07, hbwvt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Mark, The standalone version of Flex Builder on Windows is based on 3.1.2 but the plugin version will work on 3.1.2 or 3.2 so you should be good to go. Let me know if you run into any issues. -Heidi Flex Builder Dev Manager --- In [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark R. Jonkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi David > > While I'm not the original poster and realize (via the other posts on this > thread) that the changes are documented, they aren't immediately available > from where you would expect to find them on the website. For example: > > http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/ > > The top line says Current English Version: Flex 2.0.1... updaters available > > Click on the link and wind up at: > > http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/downloads_updaters.html > > You get the release notes for 2.0.1 if you click Release Notes under Flex > Builder 2.0.1 but if you click the Flex 2.0.1 SDK Release Notes, you get the > release notes from Flex 2.0 unless somehow the 2.0.1 stuff is interspersed > (but that wasn't evident if it was). So if you clicked on the correct Flex > Builder 2.0.1 link you got what you wanted but one would expect the SDK link > to list out updates to the compilers as well (ie. what changes affect more > then just the Flex Builder such as new components or functionality). > > One thing I wanted to know and still can't figure out without installing the > Flex 2.0.1 updater is whether or not the underlying version of Eclipse has > been updated from Eclipse 3.1.2 to 3.2.x. Might not be meaningful to others > but I really need Flex to run well under Eclipse 3.2.x so that I can use > Castillo only plugins with Flex. I'm currently running the 2.0 as a plugin > so that I can use Eclipse 3.2 but then I keep getting exceptions and issues > about can't retrieve labels, thread exceptions when running Flex Debugger > Perspective under Eclipse 3.2 (if anyone out there knows a solution please > let me know). Up until mid December, Subclipse plugin for the newer > Subversion client was only available for Castillo (subclipse 1.0.4 for > Eclipse 3.1 was released in December) so that caused other issues. I still > don't know whether 2.0.1 upgrades Eclipse or not.. I'd love to know that. My > guess is it won't. > > Second, if one is running Flex Data Services, the same page lists release > notes for Flex Data Services 2.0.1 but I can't seem to find the link to > download the Flex Data Services 2.0.1. Unless they are a). Contained within > the Flex Builder 2.0.1 installer or b) are located somewhere else on the > site. I think I found link last night from some other page to download said > version of the data services but I can't seem to find it today and the link > last night wound up with a broken link page. Not sure if Flex Charting has > similar issues as I believe they install as part of Flex Builder 2 but if so > I'd suggest a link on the update page along with the release notes. One > should never have to search high and low and read between the lines to know > what is included and what isn't and where one should search to find the rest > of the parts one needs to update their install. > > So while the stuff information and associated files may very well be there > on your site somewhere, the site lacks cohesiveness in presenting the > updaters and information properly. While I didn't start the thread nor do I > necessarily agree fully with the title of the thread, I do see a lack of > cohesiveness to the information presented on the site. > > I'd also like to point out that the main Flex Product page doesn't indicate > in any way that an update to Flex has been made available. Depending on my > reason for visiting Adobe's site, I'd be inclined to visit either the > product page or the support site, both should have links to the updaters and > both should be clear that an update has occurred. Currently one only finds > out about the update from the support site. > > Finally, more in response to those who are saying RTM, I'd say that the > information needs to be posted clearly and in detail outside of the product > documentation when it involves and updater like this. For example, if I'm in > the middle of a major project that might benefit from said new feature but > also could be completed without said new feature and the timeline of the > project is rather "tight". I would want to read enough detailed information > and find it quickly without the need to install the update to determine if > the risk of installing the update is less the the amount of effort to > continue developing without the update (at least for said project). It might > be just a link to a pdf that comprises the pages that were added to the full > documentation: list of changes, and the docs on the new features. The sheer > volume of the documentation for Flex can be overwhelming. > > On the subject of the documentation, having only worked with Flex for about > a couple of months in my free time, I still have mixed feelings over its > completeness in terms of at least examples and finding the right stuff > quickly. I've often had to "give up" on the documentation and search the > Internet for examples that meet my particular need. Interestingly enough at > times a Google search pinpoints what I need in the LiveDocs that the > straight search in the documentation failed to find. The other issue I find > is that the examples often utilize the simpliest of cases. An example this > week I wanted an example on using a checkbox within a data grid but not one > of the examples in the datagrid documentation showed doing anything other > then using a datagrid with the standard item renders. A set of examples for > a datagrid (or other components) would be to show the simple example and a > more complex example that exercises the bulk of the functionality: using > different item renderers etc. Often mxml examples will be shown, but a > similar example using ActionScript only is omitted. It took me forever to > figure out how to bind data without using ActionScript vs MXML. > > I'm not trying to flame anyone or create a bigger issue but there are some > things about this updater and the documenation and downloads page that can > or could definitely invoke emotions similar to the subject line especially > if someone is in a hurry and wants the information to be there readily at > their fingertips. > > Sincerely > Mark R. Jonkman > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>] On > Behalf Of David Mendels > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:37 AM > To: [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: and I thought Adobe was a professional > company. Whats going on with the upgrade > > > Hello, > > Have you tried the help system? The new functionality is documented. > > Regards > David >
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