I have to agree with David, both events will be great.  I love MAX because I
get to hang out with Ed Sullivan from the User Group Program and that's
worth the price of admission. =)  For those of you not in the UG program and
not knowledgable to the The Great Ed, shame on you.

The comparison that David makes below pretty much says it all.  500 (we
bumped up the numbers for round 2) vs 3000.  There are things a 3000
developer, company driven conference can do that we (360Flex) cannot: rent
out California Adventure, get the Venetian, bring entire product development
teams. However, there are things we can do that MAX can't: know that
everyone you bump into is there for flex only, a job fair where you can
leave with job leads (if not a new job!), and a place where speakers tell
how they use Flex in the trenches day in and day out ( i.e. you see REAL
code!).  We also let you bring guests to our parties for free.  We like our
wives and reckon other's like their lifelong partners to party with them
too. Adobe appreciates the smaller conferences too and what they allow them
to do at a corporate level, ala ApolloCamp.  Can you imagine giving away
3000 flex builders, books, shirts, etc?

There are other community driven aspects of 360Flex Seattle that I'm not
allowed to publicly say yet (yes, my partners have put the seal on my
mouth!)  If you think the community vibe flourished last time, you ain't
seen nothing yet!  We're still nailing down details, but I think it's some
darn cool stuff.

The way I see it is like this:  You're on flexcoders because you want flex
and flex only.  Wouldn't you want the same from your conference?  Many won't
and that's why MAX will get 3000, but the diehards will and that's why we
sold out 400 last time and will hopefully sell out the 500 hundred this
time.

The goal of both conferences is the same: to grow the community.  Ours is
just a more informal grassroots approach to it.  Some like low-foam, extra
hot, half-caff breve lattes and others like a cuppa joe.  Just go with your
gut and you'll have a blast either way.

Thanks for listening,
Tom Ortega
http://360flex.com
http://360conferences.com/blog/

On 10 Apr 2007 05:39:30 -0700, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   Hi,

MAX will go deep in the details on Flex (and Apollo!) too.  MAX is big
enough and there are enough sessions that you can spend the entire three
days going deep on Flex, and/or spend time in a mix of sessions that also
cover other core Adobe technologies.

I think both events will be great.

Flex360 is a community event, smaller, and more focused--the last one had
400 people. There will be participants from the Flex and Apollo teams, but
not nearly as many.

MAX is Adobe's flagship event.  We expect about 3000 developers.  There
will be both beginning and advanced sessions on pretty much everything from
Adobe, Flex, Apollo, Flash, Creative Suite, ColdFusion, but there are enough
sessions that you can be very focused on just your area of interest.  In my
opinion, one of the most exciting things about MAX that no other event in
the world has, is the depth and breadth of participation by the product team
engineers--a large number of members of the Flex team, the Apollo team, the
Flash Player (etc etc)  team will be at the event, both as speakers but more
importantly just walking around at the event, at the meals and party, and
there are lots of opportunities to get to know them, ask questions, make
requests, etc. I have been to every MAX (previously called UCON) for 15
years except one (my 2nd child was born during MAX 4 years ago so I didn't
attend). The energy level, diversity, talent, creativity represented at the
event is phenomonal. I walk away every year incredibly inspired.  If you
have any chance to attend I would highly reccomend it.  If you can't (based
on timing, location, budget), Flex360 will also be excellent.

-David


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*From:* [email protected] [mailto:flexcoders@ yahoogroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Jeffry Houser
*Sent:* Monday, April 09, 2007 1:52 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] 360Flex vs. Adobe MAX - which would you
attend?


If you're looking for resources for learning Flex, go to 360Flex.
Max is an Adobe conference, and I suspect will have a ton of
non-Flex content, plus will focus more on "cool people using our
product / product roadmap / company roadmap " without going deep into
details.

At 01:04 PM 4/9/2007, ben.clinkinbeard wrote:

>Hello, I will most likely be able to attend one conference this year,
>and I am trying to determine which would be more beneficial. Due to
>the locations, the costs for each would be comparable (I could drive
>to MAX), so its really just a matter of which is better. I am mainly
>looking learn more (and more in-depth) about Flex, so I am thinking
>360 might be the way to go, but thought I would put it out there to
>the list.
>
>Anyone have a strong opinion either way?
>
>Thanks,
>Ben

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