Yup, different is the word. There is overlap with FLEX and AJAX, but since we can't pin a brand against AJAX it doesn't really rate in the papers. That being said, when AJAX kicked off people did compare AJAX with FLEX a lot. It eventually went away because of the role AJAX plays vs FLEX, it's still in the sense of the word a threat as yeah we could pick it apart feature for feature right? but in the end, when I do a drag-n-drop with HTML and it cost me nothing and no change to what is comfortable (GUI for example) and done so (given how frameworks make this trivial each day) i get high-fives? Yet to ramp-up to FLEX, that means I have to delay my high-fives by a week? So is this good or bad? It depends on the maturity of the upper tiers and how far one is willing to go to get right tool, right job, right time in the room.
There's no black or white answer on this one me thinks. I've noticed since joining Microsoft that beating up on it's brand is a popular thing to do and it costs nothing (sure I used to punch out emails with the M$ lettering because it was an obvious thing to do and was in some weird way funny. I joined MSFT and began to sort signal from noise within and realised that there are quite smart folks here - obviously I'm not one of them heehehe). Yet, Silverlight has its own destiny just like Flash will continue to have it's own & cool heads will prevail. Eventually you'll see the path going forward and hopefully folks will begin to understand the motivation behind Silverlight (It's like a good book folks, each page is going to unveil more). I could give you a blow by blow play of how I think it plays out in the end, but that would just fuel the politics and draw the anti-Microsoft folks out of the wood work to challenge it. Rather than do that, I'll sit back on this one and let you guys/girls formulate your own informed opinion and come to your own conclusions on it, if you have questions along the way, you have my email :) or blog. Anything both Adobe and Microsoft say on the matter is only going to fuel different fires. Try it, see if you can see beyond the Flash vs Silverlight arguments and if you like what you see, let me know and I'll do what I can to hook you up with Microsoft help. Life is getting exciting folks, where do you think the next 5 years of the interweb (I love saying interweb as it reminds me of some comedy skits I once saw - had to be there style joke) is going to be? I personally am confused at what the fear around Silverlight is about, I'm actually excited that there is another channel to play in as well as FLASH. It's why I joined Microsoft? (I thought my peers in this space would pause long enough to at least give it a go when it's launch at the very least?). Anyway... keep moving forward :) I still use FLEX and still recommend it going forward and will always. Some have pushed the notion I may appear to be "FUD messenger from hell" but its really because I'd like to see Adobe do more in this space and frustrated with the pace its doing it at (Just like i'll push from the inside for MSFT to do more in their space etc no two companies are perfect). The way i see it (correct me if i'm wrong) either way You folks win, let the brands fight out the PR for a change as we (all) can only go up, not down right?. There's life after Microsoft, I just hope its much more exciting than it has been in the last 5 years is all ;) Scott Agnostic Evangelist Microsoft hehee - there will be complaints. On 18 Apr 2007 04:50:46 -0700, Brian Lesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Scott, I don't understand what you are trying to say. Is there something on a Microsoft page that can help me? You seem to say that Silverlight and Flash are very different and I think you are implying that they don't really compete with each other. Or maybe that the feature or technology overlap between them is not as large as some people assume it is? When I look at Silverlight from a high level (assuming the clr is implemented) it does seem to me to overlap a great deal with Flash. I understand the workflow is different and the codecs are different but from a 9000 foot high perspective they seem to overlap a great deal. At any rate, this is a Flex discussion list, and I really don't want to prolong this thread needlessly. So, if you could could just point me at something written by Microsoft about how Silverlight is very different (at a high level) in what it enables a developer to do, or for an end user, from Flash I would appreciate it. Yours truly, -Brian Scott Barnes wrote: > Hell no :) > > (Not while I have breathe and draw pay at Microsoft). > > SilverLight = Apple > Flash = Orange > > Both eatable, but personally I'm an Orange man on Mon-Wed and Apple > man Thu-Sun... > > If you read FUD crap, ignore it on both sides and just be opened to > the idea that theres yet another channel of delivery in rich > interactive applications. > > Keep moving forward :) > > - > Scott Barnes > Developer Evangelist > Microsoft - FUD is a common word abbrevation lately, what's with that? > > > On 16 Apr 2007 18:04:35 -0700, *helihobby* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <helihobby%40yahoo.com>>> wrote: > > > Please comment after you ready and see this: > > http://blogs. msdn.com/ tims/archive/ 2007/04/15/ introducing- > microsoft- > <http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2007/04/15/introducing-microsoft-> > silverlight. aspx > > http://www.microsof t.com/silverligh t/default_ 01.aspx > <http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/default_01.aspx> > > Sean - [URL=http://www.HeliHobb <http://www.helihobb/> y.com > <http://www.helihobby.com/>]HeliHobby.com[ /URL] > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblo g.com <http://www.mossyblog.com> > -- __________________________________________________________ Brian Lesser Assistant Director, Application Development and Integration Computing and Communications Services Ryerson University 350 Victoria St. Toronto, Ontario Phone: (416) 979-5000 ext. 6835 M5B 2K3 Fax: (416) 979-5220 Office: POD?? E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <blesser%40ryerson.ca> (Enter through LB99) Web: http://www.ryerson.ca/~blesser __________________________________________________________
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