"Want to keep arguing it?"
I guess so, sure. So that's partially the same thing I was saying, or
at least implying, when I said, "[RICH UI] in fact ARE part of Web 2.0-
they just aren't the ONLY component of Web 2.0."
So I still think this statement is incorrect partially: "Web 2.0 is not
about RIA, web 2.0 is about collaboration" - it would be better stated
as, "Web 2.0 is not ONLY about RIA, its about components A,B,C,D, etc.,
one of those components being collaboration, but not ONLY about
collaboration"
Your quote said, "[Web 2.0 is] a set of principles and practices- a
veritable solar system of sites that demonstrate some or all of those
principles," - well an RIA UI is one example of one of many Web 2.0
practices, collaboration is one example of one of many Web 2.0
principles. There are other principles and practices listed.
What was your interpretation of the article's Web 2.0 component #7
listed, titled "Rich User Experiences"?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
GT&O Learning & Leadership Development
eTools & Multimedia Team
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From: [email protected]
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java
And the book says:-)
1. The Web As Platform
Like many important concepts, Web 2.0 doesn't have a hard
boundary, but rather, a gravitational core. You can visualize Web 2.0
<http://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20
.html#mememap> as a set of principles and practices that tie together a
veritable solar system of sites that demonstrate some or all of those
principles, at a varying distance from that core.
Notice it says Web2.0 is a platform, a set of principles and
practices that tie every thing together. And it lists web 1.0 <-> Web
2.0 and the thing is that all those listed is about collaboration of
information, in a platform for sharing information.
Want to keep arguing it?
On 9/28/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
""I really hate it when someone makes a comment like
Flex front end is web 2.0..Web 2.0 is not about RIA, web 2.0 is about
collaboration. "
I disagree. According to the article quoted, "What Is
Web 2.0", (
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-
20.html
<http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web
-20.html> ) written by tim O'Reilly who was part of the same group who
claim to have coined the term "Web 2.0", RIAs, like what Flex/Flash
provides, in fact ARE part of Web 2.0- they just aren't the ONLY
component of Web 2.0.
An excerpt from page 5:
7. Rich User Experiences
As early as Pei Wei's Viola browser
<http://www.viola.org/> in 1992, the web was being used to deliver
"applets" and other kinds of active content within the web browser.
Java's introduction in 1995 was framed around the delivery of such
applets. JavaScript and then DHTML were introduced as lightweight ways
to provide client side programmability and richer user experiences.
Several years ago, Macromedia coined the term "Rich Internet
Applications" (which has also been picked up by open source Flash
competitor Laszlo Systems) to highlight the capabilities of Flash to
deliver not just multimedia content but also GUI-style application
experiences...AJAX is also a key component of Web 2.0 applications such
as Flickr, now part of Yahoo!....
They seem to impy Web 2.0 has several different
components (7 or so). Personally to me that means Web 2.0 is highly
ambiguous, since it would mean it would take in just about every new &
popular trend on the web. Maybe that's OK, I dunno, but not worth
arguing about.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
GT&O Learning & Leadership Development
eTools & Multimedia Team
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