Thats what ive got.

Ideally what i'm saying is i would have a single delegate for each command that makes a dao call.


Bjorn


On 23/10/2007, at 10:50 PM, ben.clinkinbeard wrote:

Why not just have a DAODelegate with methods like getUserDAO(),
getProductDAO(), etc?

Ben

--- In [email protected], Bjorn Schultheiss
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Doug,
>
> My backend is mainly DAO's and I've got one delegate pers DAO in my
> company lib, that gets used across multiple projects.
>
> But I'm pretty sure thats not Cairngorm.
>
> Cairngorm is 1 to 1 e-c-d.
>
>
> regards,
>
> Bjorn
>
>
> On 23/10/2007, at 2:33 PM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
>
> > me2 :) I usually use one delegate per application or major
> > division of the app, eg Modules. This delegate can access how ever
> > many services it needs to to do the job. Further, it can rely on
> > utility classes to massage incoming data if need be too. Now if I
> > have to switch from WebService to RemoteObject, only need to create
> > one new delegate to use, eh? bamm!
> >
> > DK
> >
> >
> > On 10/22/07, ben.clinkinbeard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yea, I just don't buy into that. I am all for short files and clear
> > separation of responsibilities, but I don't see what
> > single-method-delegates buys you. My delegates are pretty dumb, they
> > just contain methods that take params and pass em along to web
> > methods. I don't access the model or anything inside my delegates. To > > each his own obviously but I just don't think I will ever be sold on
> > that division. I guess I'm a Cairngorm rebel. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Bjorn Schultheiss
> > <bjorn.mailinglists@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Ben,
> > >
> > >
> > > The Idea is that even if you are calling the same webservice you are
> > > to create a new delegate.
> > >
> > > The sequence is Event - Command - Delegate.
> > >
> > > Not saying that i follow it, but I'm sure in it's strictest
> > > implementation its 1 to 1.
> > >
> > >
> > > Check this
> > > http://jessewarden.com/2007/08/10-tips-for-working-with-
> > cairngorm.html
> > > 6. There are 3 ways to use Commands & Delegates. I prefer A because > > > it's consistent, leads to short class files, and is very explicit.
> > > A) For every use case, you make 1 Command and 1 Event. This can
> > > sometimes also mean 1 Delegate. (ie, LoginEvent, LoginCommand,
> > > LoginDelegate)
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone from AC care to confirm?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 23/10/2007, at 12:08 PM, ben.clinkinbeard wrote:
> > >
> > > > > the 1 to 1 event-command-delegate methodology
> > > >
> > > > I've heard that mentioned indirectly a couple of times before but > > > > don't remember ever reading it as a suggested methodology. Maybe I
> > > > just missed that instruction but I don't follow that practice.
> > I have
> > > > one delegate per Web Service, so several Commands end up using the
> > > > same Delegate.
> > > >
> > > > As a general practice, I think Commands are very often an
> > appropriate
> > > > and efficient approach.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't looked into PureMVC yet but would like to at some point.
> > > > That being said, I've also not really encountered any
> > situations where
> > > > I felt Cairngorm was restricting me from accomplishing anything.
> > > >
> > > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Bjorn Schultheiss
> > > > <bjorn.mailinglists@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if there has been a previous thread on this. I'm
> > > > > assuming there is but i thought i'd start one again in light
> > of some
> > > > > recent blog posts about a Silvafug meeting by the assertTrue
> > guys on
> > > > > frameworks.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.asserttrue.com/articles/2007/10/17/silvafug-
> > application-
> > > > > frameworks-presentation
> > > > > http://probertson.com/articles/2007/10/18/flex-application-
> > > > frameworks-
> > > > > presentations/
> > > > > http://www.sephiroth.it/weblog/archives/2007/10/
> > flex_frameworks.php
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't used PureMVC yet but I have used Cairngorm for a while
> > > > > (since the flash 7 days).
> > > > >
> > > > > I will say I've got a few beefs with Cairngorm and from just
> > looking
> > > > > at the PureMVC diagram i already see a few solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess my main beefs with cairngorm has been the use of
> > commands.
> > > > > Specifically in creating Re-usable commands.
> > > > > the 1 to 1 event-command-delegate methodology has never sat well
> > > > with
> > > > > me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dumb Models (vo collections) is another.
> > > > >
> > > > > Support for unit testing in the View is another.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone care to help start a discussion?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bjorn
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Douglas Knudsen
> > http://www.cubicleman.com
> > this is my signature, like it?
> >
> >
>




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