I don't think IDE is the issue (I use Textmate sometimes). Even MXML
compiles down to ActionScript. But try using any .as file from the
Flex Framework in Flash _or_ Flash Component .as file in Flex... You
are looking at nightmareish integration problems as the OP has found
out.

I like Flex a lot, I'm not trying to be a downer, but I see so much
potential and it's frustrating to think that we could have that
glorious future now if Adobe had been thinking about platform
integration from the start.

Jamie

On Feb 1, 2008 12:44 PM, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Well, to be fair to Adobe, they had a sweet deal when they could build
> Flexbuilder off the Eclipse sourcecode.  Eclipse was not built for Flash,
> AFAIK, it was built as a general code editor (mostly Java focused I think
> initially), and to get it more integrated with Flash, they probably did as
> much as they could given the time to get Flexbuilder 2 out the door.  I'm
> SURE they are working towards tighter integration with the Flash IDE and
> vice versa.  Just know that Flexbuilder 2/3 is a fairly young product, I
> don't think it's really fair to call the present "crappy", it's a great tool
> if you look at the big picture and where things are headed.  One of the
> things Adobe talked about at Max in Chicago when presenting Thermo is that
> it may (or may not) one day be part of Flexbuilder, it's not for certain it
> will be a stand-alone tool (but then, it's also not for certain it will ever
> be made public at all).
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> Jason Merrill
> Bank of America
> GT&O L&LD Solutions Design & Development
> eTools & Multimedia
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> Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community
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>  ________________________________
>  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Clinton D. Judy
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 3:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [flexcoders] RE: Flex, Thermo, Flash - Why Thermo? Make Flash &
> Flex Happy Together...
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> Gosh, I'm in the same boat. I've been trying to figure out how to do this
> one application for a personal project, and it could honestly use a 50-50
> blend of Flash and Flex. I think it's weird that a third application has to
> come out to bridge Flash and Flex together. Why can't the two become
> slightly more like each other, to the point where I can just use Flex and AS
> for components and code, then use Flash to decide what those components are
> going to look like and where they're going to go? The future is glorious,
> but the present is crappy…
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Justin Winter
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 3:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [flexcoders] RE: Flex, Thermo, Flash - Why Thermo? Make Flash &
> Flex Happy Together...
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> Jaime,
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> Nice to hear someone else feels similar to the way I do regarding this
> topic.
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> I really don't want to come off on this thread as being unhappy with
> Flex or Flash. I LOVE flex, I love Flash, I love Actionscript 3.0, the
> guys and girls on the Flash & Flex teams are seriously my heroes.
>
> I'm sure this topic has cropped up in Adobe as I've heard it at
> several conferences and flex camps. I think it's a healthy discussion
> and probably the absolutely right forum to post this on as I don't
> know too many designers that hang out here.
>
> The bottom line is that this argument is nothing new. Designers have
> been trying to convince coders of how important design is for years
> and years.
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> Coming from the design world myself, then going back to school for
> computer science, this topic was always a struggle for me to convince
> my fellow coders of how important it is to pay attention to designers.
> (A perfect example these days is Apple)
>
> I'm sure things will improve in future versions of both applications!
> Wish we could fast forward to Flex 5 and Flash CS5.
>
> Justin Winter
> Useflexmore.com
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