All of the on-campus Microsoft events I remember were official Microsoft
events.  Even if it was just an alumn coming back for a visit and deciding
to take the extra hour to talk about their current project, Microsoft would
still give them some official backing. If I visit school and want to talk
about flex, I'm just a guy (that they know) asking for time.  I understand
that Adobe probably doesn't want to deputize random developers.  But if
there was a way to create an event with explicit Adobe endorsement (I
thinking of an endorsement on the level that users groups get, or even less
than that, maybe little more than just free t-shirts to give out), then it
might be easier for alumni developers to get time and student interest.  I'm
sure if a marketing inclined person thought it out, they'd be better able to
fully form whatever thought I'm trying to express.

- Daniel Freiman

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Hi all,
>
> We definitely hear you. Adobe is definitely interested in making larger
> impact in education when it comes to our developer offerings. We just hosted
> an event for universities here in San Francisco that had very good
> attendance. Additionally we are beginning to reach out to a number of
> universities to try to get Flex into the curriculum. Admittedly, we are
> starting small. We have targeted about 10-15 places to start, and if we are
> able to find success there we will be able to scale this to be a much larger
> effort. It's not easy, but we do have dedicated people who are really
> working on thinking about the best ways to spread the Flex message into
> higher ed.
>
> I also encourage folks to strike out on their own. Go back to your alma
> mater and talk about Flex. Get interns as Sam mentioned in one of his
> responses, and have them take the technology back. We have done everything
> we can to make Flex available to students, faculty, and staff (FB Pro is
> free!) so it's really about getting folks informed and excited. I'm not sure
> what kind of experience Mark had with a Flex Camp, but we really have tried
> to fund camps all over, and there's nothing saying that it can't be done at
> a university.
>
> Feel free to contact me directly if you have an idea for how we can reach
> out to education more, and I will put you in touch with the marketing folks
> who are running things.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 4/3/08 8:33 AM, "matt wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<matt%40thewebforge.co.uk>>
> wrote:
>
> Adobe (certainly UK) does do campus days and there is considerable
> interest in Flex.. They also do on site lectures .. I'm doing a 3 hr session
> on Flex at Stafford next week for them -
>
> www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays <http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><
> http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays>
>
>
> generally students are pretty keen : unfortunately they have also not any
> idea that Flex even exists until we get there
>
> Matt
>
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> krishna Raj
> Sent: 03 April 2008 09:18
> To: [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!
>
> There is lot of scope for Adobe Technologies in Universities towards
> higher education worldwide.
> This idea can further their technologies for their(Universities) course
> offerings to the great extent.
> I wish, it comes true.
> krishna Raj
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rick Winscot <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]<rick.winscot%40zyche.com>>
> wrote:
>
> At this pace we won't (generally) see RIA technologies in course offerings
> for 4 - 5 years at least. It would be awesome to see higher education
> quicken their pace and open the door to innovators like Adobe - but the fact
> is... that in its current state, higher education, is ill suited to embrace
> them. To be frank... I don't blame Adobe for not wanting to participate in
> the higher education debacle.
>
> Rick Winscot
>
> From: [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> yigit boyar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:52 PM
> To: [email protected] <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!
>
> Yesterday, Microsoft was in my department to present silverlight&ajax
> technologies.
> Although silverlight is currently a bullshit compared to flex, and in my
> department (METU computer engineering)
> many people use linux; there were quite many people attending to the
> seminar.
>
> Tomorrow, I'll do give a seminar about AIR technology,which will be hosted
> by METU Computer Club.
> who am I? Just a 3rd year computer engineering(~=science) student.
>
> So i ask to adobe; microsoft comes to our lessons for their primitive
> technology, but adobe does nothing for flex the great? why?
> you do europe tour, it's great but you better do some more local event (no
> need to bring your developers, just use
> your local partners).
>
> just a suggestion to adobe guys, maybe because of feeling bad with
> microsoft's integration efforts...
>
> info : METU = middle east technical university / ankara/ turkey
>
>  
>

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