Well this is part of the internal design of a particular component so I 
dont really want to hook the applicationComplete event and the 
component could be used in other situations like instantiated from code 
rather than mxml, I had assumed that run during initComplete would work 
in all cases but looks like it doesnt.

I could hook the creationComplete event which fires after the first 
validation cycle has finished but I was trying to avoid that becuase 
the component will have then been drawn and effectively I will have to 
invalidate it and start over again.

On the other hand maybe I need to override commitProperties...

Basically this was why I was trying to understand exactly when bound 
properties get initialised.

tks



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