First... Of course we were using two 24" monitors... The issue was the focus of the mouse and keyboard.
The comment "Flex was not ready for Prime Time Contesting" was a quote from one of the Contesters... not me. So please do not be so defensive. The purpose of the exercise was to see how the Flex would do in a contest environment with Newbie Flexer's who were experienced contesters. Because of the focus issue the Flex did not do too well... I might note that in many club contest environments, you get Newbie Flexer's who are experienced contesters. BUT.. the Focus issues should be fixable ....it needs a Contest Skin and a better way to fix the focus of the keyboard to the Logger and the Mouse wheel to the frequency. COST IS NOT THE ISSUE... 2 computers take up more power and space..which tend to be limited in situations such as Field Day... hence an ugly solution.. BTW... I run an IC-756Pro3 side by side in SO2R with my Flex.. albeit my Flex has long since become my primary radio.. Ultimately the purpose of my exercise was to determine what needed to be fixed so that the Flex would be ready for Prime Time Contesting ... and that became quite obvious....FOCUS...FOCUS.. FOCUS... __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com<http://www.ky6la.com/> "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 & 2007 San Diego Fires, 911" From: William H. Fite [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:16 PM To: Dr. Howard S. White Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] Field Day, Focus and Contest Skins? As a research methodologist--Dr. Fite to Dr. White--I have to note a flaw in the conditions of your "experiment." The operators were, as you noted, newbies lacking experience with the Flex. Simply changing from one conventional transceiver to another or from one logging program to another is enough to throw off the conditioned responses and the muscle memory of an experienced contester. Why would we be surprised to find that knob-twisters, having their first experiences with no-knob radios, would find them unsatisfying? I think that there may be some issues that might make the Flex more challenging to use in contest situations, that I will give you. But your experiences as recounted here scarcely justify the dismissive conclusion that, "the Flex was not ready for 'Prime Time' Contesting." It is likely that not many years will pass before SDR contest operators find that knobbed radios are hindrances to their own performance. Long range bet? As to running the Flex and the logger simultaneously and ameliorating focus issues, two words: Dual monitors. Oh, and mouse fluency, of course. A final thought: Why are two computers an "ugly solution?" Since the SDR can sit under the desk or across the room, what is the significant difference between two computers sitting side by side versus one computer and a Yaesu 9000 sitting side by side? My experience with obsessed and driven contesters is that no price is too great to pay, no burden too great to bear. For the cost of an antenna farm one can buy a whole bunch of laptops... On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Dr. Howard S. White <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ran the Flex 5000 for Field Day with 2 Flex Newbie's who were Very Experienced Contest Operators who regularly win major contests. The issue quickly became the fact that it was difficult to use the Flex in a contest environment because the operators had difficulty with the focus of the keyboard in search and pounce mode. This was not an issue when we held a frequency as we did not have to touch the radio. On several occasions, they would be typing into N1MM, then changing frequencies, forgetting to move the focus back to N1MM so PowerSDR abruptly changed the radio frequencies or bands because they typed on the wrong screen...and of course lost the contact.... It became highly frustrating in the heat of battle.. I had the mouse set so that by hovering over a program it would shift focus but that was not really good enough in the heat of the contest where the mouse needs to be hovering over PowerSDR but typing needs to be into the Contest logger. Bottom Line: They concluded that the Flex was not ready for "Prime Time" Contesting. I seem to recall some discussions on program focus on this reflector but it is impossible to search this reflector's archives.. A Few of Recommendations: 1. There really needs to be a Contest Skin which removes about 90% of the controls that you never use in the contest...they could be "set it and forget it" in the main form and hidden during contests..... You really only use frequency via mouse wheel, band, filters. 2. The Contest Skin needs to integrate a contest logging program such as N1MM or Writelog into the Skin so that you never have to switch programs...ideally the logger should show inside the skin. 3. In the alternative, remove the ability of the keyboard to interact with PowerSDR during contests and fix its focus onto the Contest Logger while fixing the focus of the mouse wheel on frequency changing. 4. Or in the alternative, use a second computer for the contest logger... really ugly solution... 5. There needs to be a detailed Knowledge Base Article on Focus for contesting. One other suggestion... move this reflector to a reflector such as Yahoo Groups which has a searchable archive...so you won't continually have people asking the same questions all the time. __________________________________________________________ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA Website: www.ky6la.com<http://www.ky6la.com/><http://www.ky6la.com/> "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 & 2007 San Diego Fires, 911" _______________________________________________ Flexedge mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used for posting topics related to SDR software development and experimentalist who are using alpha and beta versions of the software. -- The proportions and relations of things are just as much facts as the things themselves. _______________________________________________ Flexedge mailing list [email protected] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. 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