I'd love to know what's set wrong then. As it is now it does nothing for me at all. (Positive that is; it just distorts incoming audio). And I've tried myriads of different settings.
Phil G3UGK -----Original Message----- From: FlexRadio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyle Fisher Sent: 24 February 2014 18:42 To: [email protected] Subject: [Flexradio] DSP NR DSP works great for me on my Flex 5K. I would not be able to operate without it. You do not have something set right. -----Original Message----- From: FlexRadio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FlexRadio Digest, Vol 106, Issue 20 Send FlexRadio mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of FlexRadio digest..." Today's Topics: 1. DSP NR (David Edwards) 2. Re: DSP NR (Mike) 3. Re: DSP NR (Michael Walker) 4. Re: DSP NR (Don Plunkett) 5. Re: DSP NR (Burt) 6. Re: DSP NR (Julius Jones (Prodigy)) 7. Re: DSP NR (Burt) 8. Re: DSP NR ([email protected]) 9. Re: DSP NR (Jay) 10. Re: DSP NR (Jay) 11. Re: DSP NR (Burt) 12. Re: DSP NR (Michael Walker) 13. A problem of a different sort (William and Susan) 14. Re: A problem of a different sort ([email protected]) 15. Re: A problem of a different sort (GARY HUBER) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:23:29 -0500 From: "David Edwards" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <79CCC8E1A6CB4035A9422CC819BB006F@PCX58> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with 12 gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least 4 major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome radio and my best radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and TS2000 and have had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really ever worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I have not seen any situation where switching on NR improves the ability to copy a weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. When I purchased the Flex at the Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned demonstration showed incredible signal improvement using NR. So I wonder when the NR will ever be improved to at least the usable state. BTW I?ve tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. pages, have lots of processing power and lots of experience with SDR?s. I work with the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my job: The General Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn?t comparable but my point is I?m not new to SDR. That said if I?m missing something I?d like to hear from others who may have had a different experience. Again I think this is a great radio just not great DSP NR. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:29:01 -0600 From: "Mike" <[email protected]> To: "'David Edwards'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You are not alone my friend... Mike, K4EAR > -----Original Message----- > From: FlexRadio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > David Edwards > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Flexradio] DSP NR > > I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with 12 > gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least 4 > major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome radio > and my best radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and TS2000 > and have had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. > > There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really ever > worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I have not > seen any situation where switching on NR improves the ability to copy > a weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. When I purchased the > Flex at the Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned demonstration showed > incredible signal improvement using NR. So I wonder when the NR will > ever be improved to at least the usable state. > > BTW I?ve tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. > pages, have lots of processing power and lots of experience with > SDR?s. I work with the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my > job: The General Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn?t comparable > but my point is I?m not new to SDR. That said if I?m missing something > I?d like to hear from others who may have had a different experience. > Again I think this is a great radio just not great DSP NR. > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:30:39 -0500 From: Michael Walker <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <CA+33ts4uenHA-gihptQbAaEhN98v4rTTSvZCVKwK37gqgnz=o...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I find the biggest adjustment I use other than playing with the taps is AGC-T, but I am sure you have tried that already. I have had success with knocking down noise in my plasma tv infected home station. I don't have the same issue with my remote base, and there I use just a TS480 which hears so much more as the noise floor is just that much better. Mike va3mw On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > You are not alone my friend... > > Mike, K4EAR > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: FlexRadio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of David Edwards > > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:23 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Flexradio] DSP NR > > > > I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with > > 12 gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least > > 4 major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome > > radio and my > best > > radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and TS2000 and have > > had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. > > > > There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really > > ever worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I > > have not > seen > > any situation where switching on NR improves the ability to copy a > > weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. When I purchased the > > Flex at > the > > Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned demonstration showed incredible > > signal improvement using NR. So I wonder when the NR will ever be > > improved to at least the usable state. > > > > BTW I've tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. > pages, > > have lots of processing power and lots of experience with SDR's. I > > work > with > > the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my job: The General > > Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn't comparable but my point > > is I'm not new to SDR. That said if I'm missing something I'd like > > to hear from others who may have had a different experience. Again > > I think this is a > great > > radio just not great DSP NR. > > _______________________________________________ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > [email protected] > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > > http://www.flexradio.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:24:10 -0700 From: "Don Plunkett" <[email protected]> To: "'Michael Walker'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I agree ... all it does is make signals muffled! ... VA6FH -----Original Message----- From: FlexRadio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Walker Sent: February-23-14 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR I find the biggest adjustment I use other than playing with the taps is AGC-T, but I am sure you have tried that already. I have had success with knocking down noise in my plasma tv infected home station. I don't have the same issue with my remote base, and there I use just a TS480 which hears so much more as the noise floor is just that much better. Mike va3mw On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > You are not alone my friend... > > Mike, K4EAR > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: FlexRadio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of David Edwards > > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:23 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Flexradio] DSP NR > > > > I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with > > 12 gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least > > 4 major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome > > radio and my > best > > radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and TS2000 and have > > had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. > > > > There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really > > ever worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I > > have not > seen > > any situation where switching on NR improves the ability to copy a > > weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. When I purchased the > > Flex at > the > > Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned demonstration showed incredible > > signal improvement using NR. So I wonder when the NR will ever be > > improved to at least the usable state. > > > > BTW I've tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. > pages, > > have lots of processing power and lots of experience with SDR's. I > > work > with > > the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my job: The General > > Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn't comparable but my point > > is I'm not new to SDR. That said if I'm missing something I'd like > > to hear from others who may have had a different experience. Again > > I think this is a > great > > radio just not great DSP NR. > > _______________________________________________ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > [email protected] > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > > http://www.flexradio.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List [email protected] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:07:18 -0800 (PST) From: Burt <[email protected]> To: David Edwards <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 One thing almost as useless is the "scope." On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:24 PM, David Edwards <[email protected]> wrote: I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with 12 gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least 4 major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome radio and my best radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and TS2000 and have had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really ever worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I have not seen any situation where switching on NR improves the ability to copy a weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. When I purchased the Flex at the Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned demonstration showed incredible signal improvement using NR. So I wonder when the NR will ever be improved to at least the usable state. BTW I?ve tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. pages, have lots of processing power and lots of experience with SDR?s. I work with the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my job: The General Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn?t comparable but my point is I?m not new to SDR. That said if I?m missing something I?d like to hear from others who may have had a different experience.? Again I think this is a great radio just not great DSP NR. _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List [email protected] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 21:30:18 -0500 From: "Julius Jones \(Prodigy\)" <[email protected]> To: "Burt" <[email protected]>, "David Edwards" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <0709027054C44A1F9F373A618FA2965D@ownercaf6ae368> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original I do not how you use the bandscope but I find it very useful. Not only can I look at is the band bust and quickly find a free frequency. I can look at someone's audio and see where the highs and lows roll off. Julius(W2IHY) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burt" <[email protected]> To: "David Edwards" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR > One thing almost as useless is the "scope." > > > > > On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:24 PM, David Edwards <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with 12 > gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least 4 > major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome radio > and my best > radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and TS2000 and have > had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. > > There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really ever > worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I have not > seen > any situation where switching on NR improves the ability to copy a > weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. When I purchased the > Flex at the Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned demonstration showed > incredible signal improvement using NR. So I wonder when the NR will > ever be improved > to at least the usable state. > > BTW I?ve tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. > pages, have lots of processing power and lots of experience with > SDR?s. I work with the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my > job: The General Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn?t comparable > but my point > is I?m not new to SDR. That said if I?m missing something I?d like to > hear > from others who may have had a different experience. Again I think > this is > a great radio just not great DSP NR. > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:53:28 -0800 (PST) From: Burt <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Bandscope? band bust? Do you mean Panadapter? ? On Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:30 PM, Julius Jones (Prodigy) <[email protected]> wrote: I do not how you use the bandscope but I find it very useful. Not only can I look at is the band bust and quickly find a free frequency. I can look at someone's audio and see where the highs and lows roll off. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 22:06:59 -0500 From: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >From the Flex 5000 operating manual: The Scope Display shows the received or transmitted audio signal in the time domain. The Scope Display is particularly useful when transmitting to monitor your audio waveform, e.g. to see the effects of DX (page 82) or equalization (page 109). The time base can be adjusted on the Setup Form- Display Tab (see page 141). I found it to be very useful. Pete, WA2CWA http://www.manualman.com On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:07:18 -0800 (PST) Burt <[email protected]> writes: > One thing almost as useless is the "scope." > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 21:27:01 -0600 From: Jay <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed All Since David has been using the radio for 5 years, he know how it works, he knows you have to adjust the AGC-T levels and tweak the NR settings in Setup. It does reduce some types of noise. It can also distort signals. I wish it worked better too. I think the NR button is all about wishes. You hear noise. You wish it would stop. You wish VERY hard. You press NR. And the noise is still there Wishes work better in fairy tales. But we have a button. Flexradio included the NR button so we could all wish Wishing won't make it work though. Somebody will have to fix it in the software. If wishes were horses, then dreamers would ride. Yes they would. I wish I knew how to write software well enough to make the NR button work. I just pushed the button again. Worked about the same as before. Let's make it a contest then. First person to rewrite PowerSDRs NR code work so that it works... wins! What does he win? Anything he wishes! I have discovered that there's another button in PowerSDR that does noise reduction and it really works. It's also mislabeled they put the word Mute on it. But I like the way the NR button works better! The dreams get better and better just like i wished. Sent with a smile and best wishes!:-) On 2/23/2014 5:23 PM, David Edwards wrote: > I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with 12 > gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least 4 major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome radio and my best radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and TS2000 and have had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. > > There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really ever worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I have not seen any situation where switching on NR improves the ability to copy a weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. When I purchased the Flex at the Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned demonstration showed incredible signal improvement using NR. So I wonder when the NR will ever be improved to at least the usable state. > > BTW I?ve tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. pages, have lots of processing power and lots of experience with SDR?s. I work with the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my job: The General Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn?t comparable but my point is I?m not new to SDR. That said if I?m missing something I?d like to hear from others who may have had a different experience. Again I think this is a great radio just not great DSP NR. > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- 73 Jay - NO5J [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 21:34:49 -0600 From: Jay <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The Scope display is also useful when used while adjusting the "useless" NR button. I like the Scope display i like the Pan_A_Scope display even more. I don't see much use for the histogram and phase2 displays though. What are they for? On 2/23/2014 8:30 PM, Julius Jones (Prodigy) wrote: > I do not how you use the bandscope but I find it very useful. Not only > can I look at is the band bust and quickly find a free frequency. I > can look at someone's audio and see where the highs and lows roll off. > > Julius(W2IHY) > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burt" <[email protected]> > To: "David Edwards" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR > > >> One thing almost as useless is the "scope." >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:24 PM, David Edwards >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have been using the Flex 5K with Win7 64bit running on an i7 with >> 12 gb memory for about 5 years now. Have upgraded software at least 4 >> major revisions now running v2.7.2 PowerSDR. This is an awsome radio >> and my best radio. Currently have 2 other HF radios: IC7800 and >> TS2000 and have had many Kenwood and Yaesu radios over the years. >> >> There is one area where the Flex 5K falls down and has not really >> ever worked. The DSP noise reduction is useless. Over the years I >> have not seen any situation where switching on NR improves the >> ability to copy a weak signal. The IC7800 DSP NR is FAR superior. >> When I purchased the Flex at the Boxborough Ma hamfest the canned >> demonstration showed incredible signal improvement using NR. So I >> wonder when the NR will ever be improved to at least the usable state. >> >> BTW I?ve tried every conceivable setting on the DSP and Audio config. >> pages, have lots of processing power and lots of experience with >> SDR?s. I work with the most expensive SDR everyday of the week at my >> job: The General Dynamics DMR, at $500K per copy this isn?t >> comparable but my point is I?m not new to SDR. That said if I?m >> missing something I?d like to hear from others who may have had a >> different experience. Again I think this is a great radio just not >> great DSP NR. >> _______________________________________________ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> [email protected] >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flexradio.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> [email protected] >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flexradio.com/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ -- 73 Jay - NO5J [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 02:28:39 -0800 (PST) From: Burt <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >From Real life: The scope is NOTHING like a real scope, try to use it on AM to monitor either your or the other stations AM envelope. I agree with comments about NR, useless.? On Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:35 PM, Jay <[email protected]> wrote: ? The Scope display is also useful when used while adjusting the "useless" NR button. I like the Scope display i like the Pan_A_Scope display even more. I don't see much use for the histogram and phase2 displays though. What are they for? ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:50:06 -0500 From: Michael Walker <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DSP NR Message-ID: <ca+33ts7pjkcufdlu6sjjjdxy3xxc8l7ebkkuf63uaknl-6e...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would disagree on both the Scope and the NR. I have had a Flex for many years. The NR has made a difference and is certainly better than the NR on any other radio that I have used. The NR is not plug and play, nor it is it locked down that those hard coded units I have with very little adjustment. NR is a very complicated algorithm and most noises are not the same. However, the use of the NR and a frequency designed receiving antenna have made the largest difference in my ability to hear things. As for the Scope, I wouldn't live without it. The Histogram is very useful when watching other stations on their audio distribution and is certainly better then anything else. In my 6M work, it is invaluable for spotting signals, although the spurs do drive me crazy at times. As for AM, I never use it as I personally find it a waste of bandwidth, but that is just me. I personally feel that our goal is to get the information of a QSO across the ether and you don't need 5Khz to do that. I'm not trying to upset the AM guys, just my view of AM, while very historic, is just not efficient. It is good that we have so many options even including DV. For those of you who don't like the NR or don't like the Scope, then why are you still using the radio and have not moved on to something else? Mike va3mw On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Burt <[email protected]> wrote: > From Real life: > The scope is NOTHING like a real scope, try to use it on AM to monitor > either your or the other stations AM envelope. > I agree with comments about NR, useless. > > On Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:35 PM, Jay <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Scope display is also useful when used while adjusting the "useless" > NR button. I like the Scope display i like the Pan_A_Scope display even > more. I don't see much use for the histogram and phase2 displays though. > What are they for? > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > [email protected] > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:44:05 -0500 From: "William and Susan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [Flexradio] A problem of a different sort Message-ID: <F39986CC52594A59BC761F62D19CE96C@EPSDRPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello to all, It was not that long ago when we all had complaints from neighbors about us interfering with their equipment. lol Now here it is reversed and perhaps some of you have the same problem. My monitor for the radio is totally wiping out my 2 meter transmitter radio ( I do mean this monitor) and I mean to the point where the noise eliminates whomever I am listening to. I could understand if it was a Plasma monitor (they are the worse noise machines on the planet) but this is a led monitor. Now, I admit that this monitor is a 29 inch TV that accepts input for the computer HDMI. I have put on all the Terroids and ferrite beads I can fit and still it does not help. Has anyone had this problem using a strictly computer monitor?? Thanks Bill the Bull Love it. As for those folks with NR problems. I do not know. Mine works Great. I use the Flex 3000 Ok talk to you soon ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:10:02 -0700 From: [email protected] To: "William and Susan" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: [Flexradio] A problem of a different sort Message-ID: <20140224071002.8f74617d3b1a003f00b20fbd06bafa93.dbc463e465.mailapi@email04. secureserver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I Had this same problem a long time ago. I replaced the monitor with a newer model and the problem went away. >From what I have learned over the years, some monitors cause problems, some don't. George K2CM --------- Original Message --------- Subject: [Flexradio] A problem of a different sort From: "William and Susan" <[email protected]> Date: 2/24/14 6:44 am To: [email protected] Hello to all, It was not that long ago when we all had complaints from neighbors about us interfering with their equipment. lol Now here it is reversed and perhaps some of you have the same problem. My monitor for the radio is totally wiping out my 2 meter transmitter radio ( I do mean this monitor) and I mean to the point where the noise eliminates whomever I am listening to. I could understand if it was a Plasma monitor (they are the worse noise machines on the planet) but this is a led monitor. Now, I admit that this monitor is a 29 inch TV that accepts input for the computer HDMI. I have put on all the Terroids and ferrite beads I can fit and still it does not help. Has anyone had this problem using a strictly computer monitor?? Thanks Bill the Bull Love it. As for those folks with NR problems. I do not know. Mine works Great. I use the Flex 3000 Ok talk to you soon _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List [email protected] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:50:45 -0600 From: GARY HUBER <[email protected]> To: "William and Susan" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] A problem of a different sort Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Noise is probably from the power supply driving the LEDs... other LCD monitors use fluorescent tubes as the light source behind the LCD and of course fluorescent tubes and their power supplies can be excellent noise sources. I use a TimeWave ANC-4 to knock down the local (shack) electrical noise when trying to work the weak ones. 73 ES DX, Gary -- AB9M -----Original Message----- From: William and Susan Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 7:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Flexradio] A problem of a different sort Hello to all, It was not that long ago when we all had complaints from neighbors about us interfering with their equipment. lol Now here it is reversed and perhaps some of you have the same problem. My monitor for the radio is totally wiping out my 2 meter transmitter radio ( I do mean this monitor) and I mean to the point where the noise eliminates whomever I am listening to. I could understand if it was a Plasma monitor (they are the worse noise machines on the planet) but this is a led monitor. Now, I admit that this monitor is a 29 inch TV that accepts input for the computer HDMI. I have put on all the Terroids and ferrite beads I can fit and still it does not help. Has anyone had this problem using a strictly computer monitor?? Thanks Bill the Bull Love it. As for those folks with NR problems. I do not know. Mine works Great. 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