I'm not looking for or expecting a concensus on this, but I'd be
interested in people's thoughts relative to the attached message.
This raises a number of difficult issues, and I'd be even more
interested in people's thoughts on the larger issues.

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Good day.

My name is Henti Smith and I'm in the process of starting up a little "geekware" 
online shop to cater for the public in South Africa
That would like to wear clothing representing their geekness.

With this I hereby ask your permission to use the your trademark and Logo to be 
printed and embroidered onto clothing
and then sold for profit to the public. Our business plan includes taking a percentage 
of the profit and returning it to the community for the furthering of
development of the community. If you choose not to accept the offer yourself a 
contribution to a project of your choice will be made in your name.

If you have a licence policy or monetary contribution guidlines, we would be more then 
happy to negotiate a win-win situation

Please can you respond with your views and judgement on the possiblity of this.


Thank you
--
Henti Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.geekware.co.za
+27 82 958 2525

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I know there is already some FlightGear stuff for sale and we haven't
had a problem with this before, so I assume we wouldn't have a problem
with a few more geek's proudly wearing our logo.

The difference here is that they offer to contribute a portion of the
sales back to our project.  The question then is what do we do with
the money?  Who get's to hold onto it?  Who decides how and when it is
spent?  Who arbitrates or decides ultimately what is fair?  What kind
of accounting/disclosure would there need to be?  If we make things
too complicated, who would have time to jump through all the hoops?
Realistically we are probably talking a few hundred $$$ as an upper
bound?  (That's my guess anyway.)

Even though we probably aren't talking about much money here, it might
be nice to get some sort of infrastructure and understanding in place
since this sort of thing could happen to us more in the future.

In the past couple days, I've been talking a bit to someone at Linux
Game Publishing.  They are interested in helping us add some packaging
polish (in the area of docs, box art, installation, gui, etc.) that
would make this more of an attractive end user product, and then they
hope to sell a multi-cd set which includes world scenery.  Assuming
this moves forward, they propose to share the profits 50-50 with us.
I haven't a clue what kind of sales this might generate, but if you
factor in that we can run on Windows and Mac, we have a large
potential audience out there, and our project continues to become more
and more interesting to people.  If LGP wants to start throwing a
slightly less trivial amount of money back to our project, then what
do we do?

Frankly, this sort of thing scares me a lot more than writing GUI's or
speaking in front of a live audience.  There is a potential to handle
this very badly and make everyone mad at each other.  There is also a
potential to do a lot of good for the project and accelerate it's
development.

There will be plenty of time to discuss specific things that money
could be spent on, and plenty of time to discuss exactly what might be
fair or not fair.  That could be appropriately done within the
infrastructure we set up.  But for now, I'm interested in dicussing
how we might set up a frame work (that most people can live with) to
accept, manage, and distribute a bit of money.  Who has time to
oversee this?  Initially we are probably talking a few hundred $$$
even with the most optimistic outlook.  But if the LGP thing works
out, we might be talking a little more than that... (maybe /
mabye-not???)

I hate to get everyone riled up if none of this comes to pass (since
these sorts of things have come and gone before.)  But, the potential
is there, and I'd like to be able and ready to deal with it when the
time comes.

Of course if everyone is happy with any money going straight into
Curt's big screen TV fund, that would be a *lot* simpler in the long
run. :-)

I have a couple half baked thoughts, but I'll leave those for later in
hopes of not slanting the discussion any more than I already have. :-)

Regards,

Curt.
-- 
Curtis Olson   IVLab / HumanFIRST Program       FlightGear Project
Twin Cities    [EMAIL PROTECTED]                  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minnesota      http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt   http://www.flightgear.org

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