On January 5, 2005 02:23 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote:
> I'm not a pilot so could someone more informed than myself please tell me
> which is the best type of manual to get if one wants to model an aircraft
> including the avionics?
If you are talking about 3D modelling, maintenance manuals and maintenance 
facility planning manuals will be useful.  They contain detailed dimensions 
on various parts of the aircraft.  The section that I find most useful is 
parts regarding the geometries of the ribs of the wings.

If you are talking about avionics modelling, in my hand right now is a book 
called "AIAA Education Series: Civil avionics systems", ISBN: 1-56347-589-8.  
It has 395 pages and It contains very detailed information on avionics, data 
buses, electrical systems, engine control systems, flight control systems, 
hydraulic systems, navigational systems, you name it.  Some sections are 
devoted to Airbus A320, A330, A340, A380 as well as Boeing 767 and 777.

On January 5, 2005 02:47 pm, Adam Dershowitz wrote:
> The maintenance
> manuals contain more details about systems, but they tend to be harder to
> get, and then contain lots of other stuff that is not relevant, or that
> useful for modeling.
This is true, especially for Airbus.  From what I heard, not even aircraft 
maintaince facilities can get their hands on them!

Still, it will be very helpful if somebody does manage to get their hands on 
these documents (legally) and is willing to share relevent sections in 
private.

On January 5, 2005 04:13 pm, David Megginson wrote:
> One common reference source is Jane's All the World's Aircraft, a huge
> reference book published every year and costing hundreds of dollars
> new (you can get used copies on eBay or Amazon for less than $100,
> sometimes). �The book contains basic information on all the planes in
> production in any given year, including 3-views (but not for every
> plane) and some performance information (but not quite enough). �Your
> local library probably has a copy you can use. �Don't bother with the
> little softcover Jane's books -- they don't have much that's useful.
A library in our university has the whole series on a shelf, but they are 
quite useless.  You get about ten pages per type of aircraft at the most.  If 
you want to model FDMs, these books may be useful, but I suggest you to stay 
home and look up the information on the Internet instead.  3-views are not as 
useful for 3D modelling as most people think, let alone small ones.  Finally, 
you don't want to waste your time trying to get information regarding 
avionics from these books.



Ampere

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