On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:15:41 +0000 (UTC), Martin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..amen, fact update: > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050121014650517 ..I forgot http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html , another part of Sun's recent history. > Great, we finally now have the chance to come to the point of the > whole issue. The article contains nothing new ..true for those who knows all this, however it also advices it will take some time until the rest of us learns more. > and, most important, it doesn't contain a single hint why I could be > at risk after ordering a set of Solaris10 install media and compiling > FlightGear on that platform. ..just make sure you do get what you want and not any of their "free" CDDL stuff, my understanding is Solaris10 and OpenSolaris is the same, the latter only stripped slightly down and put under the CDDL. ..to me, that sounds like you can be accused of quite a few things without ever trying, here Microsoft Windows is safer, as it's source code is _completely_ useless to GNU/(andnot) Linux or Unix people. ..the wee hints I see, is a Java-trap like omission in Sun's CDDL, which essentially is Mozilla.org's MDL-1.1 _minus_ the "Mozilla clause" (on who wrote what), Sun argues "the CDDL doesn't need it because the GPL doesn't require it", (which is true, that bit is covered by copyright law, not by the GPL, the authors uses the GPL to allow distribution on terms such as source code distribution etc, which is otherwise banned under copyright law), and _plus_ Sun implicitly asking us to trust them "there are no hidden Microsoft or Sun's submarine patents" to "go after" GPL code, or GPL coders, Java-trap style. ..dropping your own Java-trapped code is a _lot_ easier than patent litigation, and it _is_ Microsoft who is in Sun's drivers seat. ..the CDDL license for Open Solaris has a potential problem that is unique to Sun and which comes from its recent agreement with Microsoft. Specifically, Marbux (he's one of Groklaw's retired attorneys) spotted a way that it would be possible for people seeing etc Open Solaris to someday find themselves blocked from distributing code to say FlightGear by a Microsoft patent infringement claim, on say "leaving Sun's CDDL community", because of their cross-licensing deal with Microsoft. ..so we will have to wait and see how this ordeal plays out. > > EOT, > Martin. ..I'm torn between appending new developments here, could make this thread useful as a legal and licensing resource, or simply move this thread in extenso to Groklaw and just post the links on the thread and updates there, here? ..would be far less annoying here and buys us more eyes, and might even buy us some new FG developers and users, but my thread move requires Martin's, Dave's, Andy's and Erik's approval under copyright law and Groklaw's Creative Commons License, as "in extenso" pushes PJ's idea of fair use a bit, and I'll also need to weed out our email addresses. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [email protected] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
