On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:31:49 -0800, Andy wrote in message 
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> Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> > David Megginson wrote:
> > > I agree with Melchoir on this point, and, in fact, I have an
> > > unbiased reference point.  I took my 13-year-old daughter and her
> > > friend for a one-hour flight yesterday in beautiful, sunny
> > > late-winter weather.  While we were taxiing at 1000 rpm, the
> > > propeller was -- just barely -- visible as a blur in the air.
> > > When I increased to 2000 rpm for runup, my daughter's friend
> > > immediately shouted out, unprompted "I can't see the propeller any
> > > more!"
> >
> > I wonder if there is a physical or physiological explanation for
> > this.
> 
> Here's a shot:
> 
> Physiologically, your retinal cells act as accumulators.  As the prop
> speed approaches infinity, the likelihood of any given photon from the
> propeller disk having bounced off of a blade first is just the area of
> the propeller blades divided by the area of the disk.  So all your eye
> cells can report is the average color, which is obviously almost
> entirely transparent (the back of my envelope tells me it should have
> an alpha of about 0x04 -- pretty much completely transparent).
> 
> But as the blades slow down, they spend more time being focused on
> specific cells, which accumulate the stimulii and pass on a color to
> the brain that is an average of the past N milliseconds (I think N is
> on the order of 30 or thereabouts -- it's definitely more than 20,

..say 25Hz, for PAL, I think 24 or 30 for the 60Hz Americas.  Movies in
cinemas 24Hz, so they either show every 24'th frame twice or run the
movie at 24/25 speed on TV and vice versa. 
Early movies used 16Hz, so here you can see the flickering.

..was 60Hz power a factor when they chose 24Hz for movies?

> which is the framerate of a PAL television).  So the brain sees a
> signal that it knows is different for different directions, even
> though those directions are "flickering" rapidly.
> 
> And here's where psychology comes in: our brains just don't interpret
> flickering signals from the eyes the same way as averaged signals.  We
> see "something there" in the flickering case, where the nearly
> transparent case gets "interpreted" as empty space, even though it
> very slightly different from the empty space outside the propeller
> disk.

-- 
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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