On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:00:42 -0800 (PST), Diarmuid wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Guys,
>    
>   I am developing on a laptop that does not have any 3D acceleration
>   but would like to have a self contained dev environment for use with
>   flight gear ( I am experimenting with building a microcontroller
>   based autopilot). I am using win xp pro. I am most interested in the
>   flight dynamics so perhaps could use jsbsim direct, but I like the
>   UDP interface for getting properties and the HUD of  FG. My question
>   is whether anyone has put together a process to bypass the 3d code
>   in FG so that only the minimum required is compiled. This would
>   exclude terrain, radios, 3d views of aircarft, etc but would include
>   full FDM, networking, sounds?, and a basic cockpit.
>    
>   Any ideas?

..use another sim as display, try acm or sabre:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/www/00-gas/gas $ apt-cache search flight
fgfs-base - Flight Gear Flight Simulator -- base files
flight-of-the-amazon-queen - a fantasy adventure game
flightgear - Flight Gear Flight Simulator
gl-117 - An action flight simulator
gl-117-data - Data files for gl-117
gpsbabel - GPS file conversion plus transfer to/from GPS units
kflog - Flight planner and logger for glider pilots
libopenscenegraph-dev - 3D scenegraph development files
libopenscenegraph2 - 3D scenegraph
openscenegraph - 3D scenegraph binary files
openscenegraph-doc - 3D scenegraph documentation
pcproxy - A masquerading proxy for flight simulation networks
sabre - fighter plane simulator for svgalib
sabre-common - data for the SABRE fighter plane simulator
scummvm - free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter
searchandrescue - fly aircraft to search (for) and rescue people in
distress simgear-dev - Simulator Construction Gear -- development files
simgear0 - Simulator Construction Gear -- shared libraries
xsabre - fighter plane simulator for X11
[1]+  Done                    gnumeric ringdim.gnumeric
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/www/00-gas/gas $ apt-cache show sabre
Package: sabre
Priority: optional
Section: games
Installed-Size: 800
Maintainer: Sam Hocevar (Debian packages) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.2.4b-21
Depends: sabre-common (>= 0.2.4b-9), dialog (>= 0.9a), libc6 (>=
2.3.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1), libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5), libstdc++6 (>=
4.0.1), libsvga1 Suggests: xsabre
Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)
Filename: pool/main/s/sabre/sabre_0.2.4b-21_i386.deb
Size: 288314
MD5sum: bce8779ae032a7108f8d2595fa085390
Description: fighter plane simulator for svgalib
 SABRE is an on-going game development for the Linux Operating System,
 worked on as a labor of love by flight-simulation enthusiasts.
 .
 For now, SABRE is focusing on the older jets and piston-engined
 fighters of the Korean War / Cold War era.  Featured are F-86 SabreJet,
 MiG-15, F-84 ThunderJet, F-51 Mustang, and Yak-9.  All of the planes in
 the game can be flown by the player as well as the computer pilots.
 .
 This package contains the svgalib binary.
Tag: game::arcade, interface::3d, interface::x11, uitoolkit::ncurses,
use::gameplaying, x11::application

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/www/00-gas/gas $ apt-cache show acm
Package: acm
Priority: optional
Section: games
Installed-Size: 1168
Maintainer: Phil Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 5.0-21
Depends: libaudio2, libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxt6
Filename: pool/main/a/acm/acm_5.0-21_i386.deb
Size: 534408
MD5sum: 8e4439df107d16cb1c1382aec3801f33
Description: A multi-player aerial combat simulation
 acm is an air combat simulator that runs under the X window system.
 This version of acm is implemented as a distributed simulation.  It
 communicates information via the IEEE Distributed Interactive
 Simulation protocol.
Tag: game::arcade, interface::x11, use::gameplaying, x11::application

..beyond Wintendo upgrade path ;o) : Follow Games -> Simulators 
(or whatever it was), right now http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ 
is 503 and I'm getting 25% packet loss on my wifi link, and I'm just
still 1/3 done on my mirror updates.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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