Buchanan, Stuart wrote:

Hi All,

I was doing a bit of digging around with tools like flight-aware -
http://flightaware.com/ - which provide tracking of all IFR flights in the
USA. It's quite cool, as you can watch specific planes track across a map,
along with their actual altitude, assigned altitude and speed.
Obviously their information has to come from some federal source. It turns
out that this is the FAA's Aircraft Situation Display to Industry -
http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdi.html.

Now it gets interesting:

Say we had access to real-time flight information for every IFR flight in
the USA. We could use that as the basis for our AI flights. I don't think
the resolution would be sufficient for the actual take-off and landing,
but given that we'd want to integrate human-controlled planes at that
point anyway, no great loss.

Even if we only had the dump from a single day, it would provide a pretty
interesting basis to build an AI flight database.

You can get data from this in two ways:

1) Contact a vendor. Unfortunately it looks like all the vendors are
commercial, so you'd have to pay them.

2) Become a vendor yourself. This being the USA (where the government
doesn't fleece you for services you've already paid for through tax), the
"only" cost to this is paying for a T1 link and installing your own router
plane in the FAA facility. Quite neat, but I doubt a T1 is cheap.

Anyone think this information would be useful?
I doubt any vendor would allow us just to download their data for our own
use, but with a suitable begging letter, they might consent to giving us a
dump of a days worth of data.

This would be a really cool thing to pursue if someone had the resources to do this. If we could figure out exactly what the cost would be, maybe we could come up with some minimal usage charge just to cover costs.

Curt.

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