On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 19:18 +0100, Vivian Meazza wrote:
> Curtis L. Olson
> 
> > Ron Jensen wrote:
> > 
> > >At the risk of repeating myself, TACAN is broken for everything but the
> > >carriers.  Replacing the two files below makes it work perfectly.
> > >
> > >Can someone submit them to CVS before the 0.9.10 release _please!_
> > >
> > >Last month I suggested a change[1] to TACAN_freq.dat and carrier_nav.dat
> > >to enable TACAN to work on the proper channels.
> > >
> > >I'd like to see this go in so the F4E I'm working on can use the TACAN.
> > >
> > >Since it seems the sourceforge list stripped the attachments they are on
> > >my webserver: http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/TACAN_freq.dat.gz and
> > >http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/carrier_nav.dat.gz
> > >
> > >
> > >[1]
> > >http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9643858&forum_id=1
> > 919
> > >
> > >
> > I don't know anything about the TACAN's, hopefully someone who does know
> > something about these can take a look today.
> > 
> 
> TACAN is not actually broken. Due to the way the nav.dat file is
> constructed, if you want to use TACAN in conjunction with Atlas, then the
> existing TACAN data works. If you want to use TACAN with real maps, then you
> need the data provided by Ron. Since most people do not have access to real
> maps, but do have access to Atlas, then I propose we leave it the way it is,
> but make Ron's data available for those that want it.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vivian

Hi Vivian,

Atlas works with TACAN?  How?  A "grep -R -i TACAN *" in my Atlas source
tree yields no hits. Is there a patch somewhere to add it in?

I don't have any physical 'real' maps, just the data I get from the
Internet at places like http://www.airnav.com/ or http://www.myafd.com .

Here's how it works, go to our main airport KSFO
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSFO

Look down to "Nearby radio navigation aids,"  Oakland VORTAC is only 9.6
miles away, click its link:
http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid-info?id=OAK&type=VORTAC&name=OAKLAND

Look at the Operational Characteristics:
  Frequency: 116.80 
  TACAN channel: 115X 

The way the current TACAN_freq.dat is built Oakland VORTAC works on FGFS 
'TACAN' channel 081X.

The same exercise can be ran on any of the VORTACs around KSFO
http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid-info?id=OSI&type=VORTAC&name=WOODSIDE
WOODSIDE VORTAC
Operational Characteristics
  Frequency: 113.90 
  TACAN channel: 086X 
  *FGFS* 'TACAN' channel: 052Y

And with different web services:
http://www.myafd.com/NavAid/SAU_VORTAC_SAUSALITO
 NavAid Facility ID: SAU
 Type: VORTAC
 Name: SAUSALITO 
 Freqency: 116.20
 TACAN Channel: 109X
 *FGFS* 'TACAN' channel: 075X

Are you really suggesting we ignore the real-world, freely available
navigation aid data in favor of incorrect data out of Atlas?


Thanks,

Ron





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