Hi David,
Dave Perry wrote:
> I had not planned to comment again on this issue. But today, I received
> an AOPA e-mail that included a link to NTSB accident report Number:
> DEN04FA043 concerning a FATAL accident [...]
Thanks a lot for carrying the report to this list in such detail.
Personally I consider these reports as an excellent collection of
recommendations on how to stay in good health ;-)
John Denker wrote:
> On 01/29/2007 11:01 PM, Dave Perry wrote:
> > This is exactly the situation that John Denker maintained was an
> > exception to the rule "report position as the radial from the station
> > and DME distance." This pilot agreed with John.
>
> Actually I have changed my mind about this. A couple of days
> ago I had the opportunity to ask a couple of TRACON controllers
> about this.
> -- They said *all* radials radiate outward.
Welcome to "pedantic theory land" ;-)
> The incorrect utterance occurred at 1104:22.
> The crash occurred about 20 minutes later.
> The aircraft was in radar contact for four of those 20
> minutes, removing any doubt ATC may have had as to the
> location of the aircraft.
>
> > caused him to fly into a mountain.
>
> My little brain is unable to understand how this incorrect
> utterance could have "caused" this crash, even in part.
Citing Dave:
> The final and fatal mistake the pilot made in this accident report
> was not following correction from two sources; the ARTCC controller
> who asked him to "turn 20 deg right and rejoin V6" as well as the
> comment from the right seat passenger who was monitoring the flight
> on a sectional [...]
It is not the "utterance" that caused the crash, it is the 'immunity' -
to avoid the term 'arrogance' - of the pilot against considering the
chance of his own confusion while determining the position of his
aircraft. This confusion is likely to arise when you don't follow clear
rules for the nomenclatura of VOR radials.
BTW, it doesn't necessarily require you to hold an IFR rating, the same
counts for VFR flights as well as long as you don't have known terrain
in sight,
Martin.
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