Actually there is a type of "fair use" for trademarks. It's called
"Nominative Use": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_use. For some
discussion of the topic as it relates to videogames you might read this blog
entry: http://www.igda.org/ipr/archives/2006/02/i_a_trademarks.html. 

Essentially there's a lot of grey area. If you use the logo and they sue you
though, you'll have to *defend* that grey area in court, and that's probably
not worth it.

Ask politely and see what they say. You might just have to include a
disclaimer in the legal that says "The Eurocopter logo is a Registered
Trademark of... blah blah blah". If they say "yes" keep a copy of the
letter.

Lorne


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Hi,

Yes, that was my thought. The problem is: Eurocopter
is very hard in such things. I heard from other
people, that they only will send you the list for
liscens fee. 

That would mean that there is no chance for a
GPL-version. 

Hmmm....So I have to keep out the Eurocopter-Logo....

Greetings
HHS

P.S.: >But INAL,   -->??

--- Christian Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> I doubt there's something like fair use - either
> it's allowed (by the
> trademark owner) or not.
> 
> What might look like fair use most probably only
> shows that the
> trademark owner doesn't know it (how should he? we
> are not that big
> yet...) - or he doesn't care (I've heard that this
> might result in a
> possible loss of the trademark in some countries...)
> 
> So this only leaves the possibility to ask kindly
> for permission
> (perhaps the PR department) - and sensible companies
> will allow this
> cheap marketing for them...
> 
> But INAL,
> Christian
> 
> Rob Oates wrote:
> > I suppose since we are not using their logos for
> commercial gain it
> > would fall under fair use?
> > However, we could simply use fictional airline
> logo and markings to
> > avoid any possible trademark issues, and then
> separate the airplanes
> > with company logos into a different branch.
> > Anyways it's just a thought.
> > -Rob


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