Maik Justus

> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] External Cargo, was: Re: 
> screenshots (and "snapshots")
> 
> 
> Hi Vivian,
> Vivian Meazza schrieb am 06.01.2008 01:01:
> > Maik Justus wrote:
> >
> >  
> >   
> >> Hi Vivian,
> >> Vivian Meazza schrieb am 21.12.2007 00:11:
> >>     
> >>> Christmas has arrived slightly early! I've got something which:
> >>>
> >>> A. runs
> >>>
> >>> B. looks OK with limited testing
> >>>
> >>> The ballistic object aligns with the direction of flight in
> >>>       
> >> pitch and
> >>     
> >>> heading with an external force applied. It would be
> >>>       
> >> possible to align
> >>     
> >>> it with the direction of the external force, but I think 
> that would
> >>> need roll as well. I'm not sure which one would look best.
> >>>
> >>> The external force is defined in terms of:
> >>>
> >>> Magnitude (lbf)
> >>> Azimuth (deg, North = O)
> >>> Elevation (deg, up = 90)
> >>>
> >>> In a user-defined property. Of course, some external
> >>>       
> >> program needs to
> >>     
> >>> set the external force data.
> >>>
> >>> This all now needs testing in a more realistic 
> environment. I'm not
> >>> totally convinced that the ballistic object won't disappear into 
> >>> space/to the centre of the earth, or oscillate like a 
> >>>       
> >> deranged spring.
> >>     
> >>> Vivian
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Thank you for the enhancement of AIBallistic. The external 
> load works
> >> here, but not perfectly. I need to limit the force to approx 
> >> 1000 lbf  
> >> (which is not enough to simulate it properly). If I do not 
> limit the 
> >> force, the load (the 3d-model) disappears, but it is still in the 
> >> property tree and reacts on forces (maybe not correct, not 
> >> sure, but it 
> >> is still there). Any idea, what could cause this?
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > Hmm - the mass of the load in load_demo is only 170 lbs - applying 
> > 1000lbf could well send it into orbit! Note your mass is in 
> slugs, and 
> > you need a realistic Cd and eda. I _think_ the math is correct, but 
> > I'll look at it again
> >
> > Vivian
> >
> >   
> Sorry, I limited the force to 1000N (about 200lbs).
> 200lbs are enough to lift the load. Lifting works. Therefore the math 
> itself is correct. But something strange happens, if I do not 
> limit the 
> force. (and sometimes forces greater than 200lbs are needed.... )
> 
> 

That sounds better, phew. There is a small "dead zone" when the load is on
the ground, so you need a bit more force than you might expect to get it off
the ground (this is to prevent oscillation, but is not totally unrealistic)
I can reduce or eliminate this. Beyond that I would need a better
explanation of what you are doing, and of the problem to speculate on a bug
or a fix.

Vivian



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