OK, let's back up and take another look at this.

In previous messages -- mine and others -- it has not always 
been clear what remarks refer to real-world aircraft and what 
remarks refer to the model.  Such remarks are OK if we think 
the model is faithful to reality, but since it has become 
clear that the model is not faithful, we need to be more
scrupulous about distinguishing model from reality.

Abbreviations:
  RW or RL -- Real World or Real Life
  SW       -- Sim World

Unless otherwise specified, SW refers to the rc2 package.

Let's start with some basic science.  Consider a RW piston engine
with a _fixed_ impedance in the induction system.  That means
no governor and some fixed throttle position, fixed for the
duration of the experiment.

It is an exercise in elementary algebra to prove (subject to 
mild assumptions) that as the engine rotation speeds up, the 
engine power output goes up.  To first order in rotation rate,
the power is proportional to rotation rate.  To second order, 
the power is less than proportional, because (due to the 
impedance) the MAP goes down ... but this second-order term 
never overtakes the first-order term.

This result is robust and insensitive to details such as
the design of the propeller.

This result agrees with long-established pilot lore and
standard operating procedures.

Now, contrast that with the following SW scenario:  I used
the rc2 c172p on the runway at KSFO.  Sea level, standard
conditions.  I set the throttle to 0.7 and left it there.  
As the SW aircraft accelerated down the runway, the airspeed 
increased from 0 to 80.  The engine rotation rate increased 
from 2212 to 2341.  So far so good.  The odd thing is that 
the SW power _decreased_ from 75% to 66%.  

That is IMHO very weird ... not the sort of thing that would
ever happen in RL ... not even close.

=====

In a previous note I conjectured that the SW o-320 had some
sort of unrealistic "governor" that kicked in under some
high-load conditions.

I need to heavily modify that conjecture, because in the SW 
takeoff (as described above) I made sure that the power was 
never more than 75% of rated power.  So whatever you want 
to call this "governor" thing, it is producing highly 
unrealistic effects under a wide range of conditions, wider 
than I previously suspected.

Please don't tell me that the SW implementation is working
as designed.  If so, that just means that the design is
broken.

=============================

Things to try:  

The first thing I would try would be
 a) remove all vestiges of this "governor" thing.
 b) add some nonzero impedance to the SW induction system, to
  represent the air cleaner, carburetor, manifold plumbing, 
  et cetera.  This is nontrivial.  With the RW engine running,
  there is no way that RW MAP ever equals ambient static pressure,
  even at full throttle ... in contrast to the SW engine where
  we see SW MAP=static routinely.  I suspect the RW engine was 
  designed to develop 100% power at roughly 27" at 2700 RPM 
  (sea level, full throttle).  Maybe 28/2700.  Somewhere in
  there.

  I would add enough SW impedance so that 2700 RPM corresponded
  to 27" (sea level, full throttle) just to get into the right
  ballpark ... and then see what further refinements were needed.


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