Problem fixed.  Great sound including vor and loc idents.  The problem 
was FC10 rpms that did not get removed.  alsa-plugins-pulseaudio were 
the issue.

Sorry for the noise.

dave perry wrote:
> Update on symptoms:
>
> I went back to osg-2.8.2, updated SimGear, fgfs, and data from cvs.  
> Recall that I upgraded from FC10 to FC12 using preupgrade.  Sound is 
> fine in several other applications.  My first run of fgfs had no sound 
> and great frame rates (throttled to 30) at KHAF and KSFO.  When I used 
> file > Quit > Exit to try and end fgfs, it locks up completely.  If I 
> minimize the window and then maximize the window, it is black.  I then 
> used Applications > System Tools > System Monitor to kill the fgfs 
> process.  fgfs process is using 100% of cpu before I kill it. When I 
> restart fgfs, it has very poor frame rate and crackly sound.  If I kill 
> the pulseaudio process, and then run fgfs, pulseaudio process is back, I 
> am back to no sound and great frame rates and when I exit fgfs, it locks 
> up again.
>
> Anyone successfully using fgfs with sound in FC12?
>
> Dave P.
>
> Curtis Olson wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:31 PM, dave perry wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I used the preupgrade to FC12 from FC10 this Saturday on my ASUS
>>     notebook (Intel core2 duo).  This installed
>>     openal-soft-1.10.622-2
>>     openal-soft-devel-1.10.622-2  and
>>     pulseaudio-0.9.21-1
>>
>>     I had to use OpenSceneGraph-2.9.5 as the svn up for osg broke fgfs
>>     link.
>>
>>     With the above I either get good frame rates (same as in FC10) and no
>>     sound or crackly sound with very low frame rates depending on how I
>>     launch fgfs.
>>
>>     Question:  What versions of openal and pulseaudio are others with FC12
>>     using that give good sound and performance?
>>
>>
>> I have a machine here where I did the upgrade from Fedora 10 to Fedora 
>> 11 and I see similar symptoms to what you report in your FC10->FC12 
>> upgrade.  For the most part, all other audio apps are just fine on 
>> this machine.  I can play youtube videos, I can play mp3's and audio 
>> CD's.  I hear the desktop sound effects, etc.  But audio for 
>> FlightGear has been totally hosed since my upgrade.
>>
>> I have another machine (laptop) which I installed FC11 directly, and 
>> audio with respect to FlightGear is better.  I generally hear what I 
>> should here, but there is quite a bit of static/crackling mixed in, so 
>> it is far from perfect.
>>
>> Erik mentioned running openal-info or alcinfo, but neither of these 
>> are installed on my machine with my version of openal or alc:
>>
>> $ rpm -aq openal
>> openal-0.0.9-0.17.20060204cvs.fc11.i586
>>
>> As others have pointed out, pulseaudio (despite it's imperfections) is 
>> installed by default on a lot of current distributions.  It seems like 
>> we should try to find a way to work with it some how.  I personally 
>> don't want to uninstall pulseaudio from my system and then have to 
>> struggle with all my other individual apps to reconfigure their audio 
>> and get them back to a working state ... right now, FlightGear seems 
>> to be the only app I have that isn't playing nice with pulseaudio.
>>
>> Even my virtual machine (windows XP running inside my Linux host) 
>> happily plays all it's sound effects through my linux host system.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Curt.
>> -- 
>> Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ 
>> <http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/>
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