I am unable to use MSFS. Has someone checked whether they handle reversibles 
with a heuristic, or are you just guessing?



James Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>On 20 Dec 2009, at 00:02, John Denker wrote:
>> I was also informed [off list] that the code to make
>> reversible ILSs usable had been "ignored" because it was 
>> "not good enough".  That is not very informative, not
>> very constructive.  No clarification has been forthcoming 
>> as to what makes it "not good enough".
>
>The off-list discussion was with me, for the record, and I apologise to John 
>for being a bit glib, and then unresponsive - the last Saturday evening before 
>Christmas, is not the ideal time to be discussing such things.
>
>What I should have said is, I don't think John's patch is a reasonable fix to 
>the problem. Or rather, it fixes the major issue from John's perspective, 
>which is un-flyable missed segments, but replaces it with another problem 
>which I consider to be equally bad. (I would guess John will consider that my 
>issue is less serious than the one he is trying to fix, but that's where we 
>differ, I think).
>
>Anyway, my objection is that delegating the active runway to a user property 
>(or menu item) is abdicating a hard problem to the user, instead of actually 
>figuring out a 'good' solution. (Hence my glib 'not good enough' remark) It 
>makes sense in a live ATC context, or some other situations (eg an instructor 
>station), but for most users it's a confusing setting. For better or worse, 
>MSFS and X-Plane do *not* require such a piece of user interaction, and 
>therefore it is my position that we should not either. Clearly they have a 
>better heuristic than we do - what I would like is for someone to propose a 
>better heuristic. (My personal guess is that the heuristic will be based on 
>local surface winds, but who knows, as ever I am not a pilot)
>
>Aka 'figure out what the user wanted, and do it'. I know John alluded to ESP, 
>but I regard that as abdication - we simply need to try / think harder about a 
>workable heuristic, instead of abandoning the idea in favour of a setting.
>
>It could be argued that John's patch is an interim step (with the heuristic 
>being developed afterwards), and should be committed as is, but personally I 
>don't think that's the case, and hence I do not wish to be the person who 
>commits it to CVS - as I said off list, I'm only going to commit other 
>people's code to CVS if I can positively convince myself that I agree with the 
>design and code - any other stance would be untenable, really.
>
>Regards,
>James
>
>
>
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