Well you should know how to pick your fights ... you don't have to chase
every single violator, just pressure the one or two who are giving you the
hardest time (like this Pro-sim guy). At least by changing the license on
some of the planes and art work (which are not dependent on anything already
inside of flightgear) it at least gives you the power to pursue a copyright
law suit. Most people will back off if you have something tangible to
pursue them with. But as it stands right now, only the stolen pictures on
his website are about the only copyright infringing thing he has done the
flightgear community.
-R
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Adam Dershowitz
<adershow...@exponent.com>wrote:
> That only helps make it clear if someone is violating a copyright. It
> doesn't help enforce it. If the license is changed, and then someone were
> to go and sell FG with those aircraft who would hire the lawyer bring the
> copyright violation law suit?
>
> --Adam
>
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 4:26 PM, kyle keevill wrote:
>
> Last I heard, The GPL license was applied to all the planes hosted on the
> FG website. I do believe however, that if we do take our own planes and put
> them in a restrictive CC license and then give permission for FG and only FG
> to use them, then we may be able to do some good.
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Rob Oates wrote:
>
> Hmm, why not change the license on some of the newer planes to a more
> restrictive creative commons license? This would give you more control over
> how these are used. For instance, you could apply the license so the planes
> could only be use for non-commercial/free projects, and if a commercial
> project wanted to use your planes then they would have to request permission
> to use them.
>
> I think that is a fair trade off. Besides commercial companies should be
> trying to improve the underlying Flight Dynamic Model and terrain system ...
> not trying to getting rich quick off of our pretty planes.
>
> The GPL license should apply some probably just a handful of planes.
>
> my 2 cents....
>
> -Rob
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Pete Morgan <ac...@daffodil.uk.com>wrote:
>
>> Just sent an email to New Zealand open Source and got this reply,
>> pete
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Please recognise that the GPL
>> does not in any way preclude people from packaging up and selling a
>> software application *so long as they comply with the terms of the GPL
>> with regard to making the source code available on request*.
>>
>> It may be that these guys are *not* in violation of the GPL so long as
>> they can provide you with their source code if you request it. If they
>> can't, then they should be given notice of a GPL violation.
>>
>> There is another issue here, however: if they are packaging up wiki
>> content, aircraft designs, et al. for which *they do not hold copyright*
>> and which aren't licensed under a Creative Commons license allowing
>> commercial distribution, then they *are* guilty of copyright
>> infringement, and you can take them to task on that, *if you are (or
>> represent) the copyright holder*.
>>
>> As a representative of the NZOSS, I would fully encourage you to explore
>> both issues (the distribution of source code, and the distribution of
>> copyrighted materials constituting potential copyright infringement)
>> with the FlightProSim.com people.
>>
>> One of our other members has noted that they're similarly distributing
>> Free!Ship: http://www.3dboatdesign.com/indexg.php
>> <http://www.3dboatdesign.com/indexg.php>
>>
>> We'll investigate that.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Dave Lane
>> NZOSS council member
>>
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