On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:12:32 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 
<[email protected]>:

> Hi,
> 
> ..just upgraded from Debian Sid's FG-1.9.1 to FG-2.0.0-2,
> framerates stayed up ok @ ~ 12-15 fps.  These screenshots:
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-001.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-002.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-003.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-004.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-005.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-006.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-007.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/fgfs-screen-008.png
> 
> ...shows at least 4 different "WWI-style German camouflage 
> printed canvas" on FG's default C172P, the Beaver and a few 
> more, "where the sun shines", these "camo printed canvases" 
> change for every frame, but doesn't seem to harm the 
> framerate, it's quite like what I saw in FG-1.9.1. 8o)
> 
> ..laptop: Fujitsu-Siemens Celsius H240 w T7200 cpu, 
> 4GB memory and ATI RV530 
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/lshw 
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/dmesg
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/Xorg.0.log
> 
> ...on Debian Sid/Experimental radeon driver,  on Debian Sid's latest 
> flightgear-2.0.0-2, will add output of any debug output ideas, here: 
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings
> 
> ..current software listing (looooong)
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/dpkg_-l
> 
> ..half baked benchmarks:
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/aiglxbenchmark.out
> 
> 
> ..I use: fgfs --geometry=1920x1200 --httpd=9999 --jpg-httpd=9876 \ 
> --timeofday=noon --prop:controls/gear/brake-parking=1 \
> --prop:sim/frame-rate=true --fov=94 &
> 
> ..the important thing is, has this "shifty sunshine camo 
> canvas" bug in FG-2.0.0-2, been fixed in git and FG-2.2?
> 

..on Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:21:08 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 
<[email protected]>:

> ..I also found a flickering "Imperial WWI Camo" bug in Debian's
> FG-2.0.0-2, it looks a _lot_ better in FG-git, no flickering, but it
> may still be present; depending on the lighting and shadows, I see
> different shades of the livery colors on e.g. doors, the tail surfaces
> from the fuselage and ailerons and flaps from the wings.  
> FG-1.9.1 and earlier did not have these differing shades, and I
> suspect you guys don't see them with closed source video drivers.  
> I'll post links to screenshots so you can see what I see.

..are these door and control surface shade differences, intentional?:
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-004.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-005.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-002.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-003.png

..playing with the livery picker menu, I found the door shadow
differences go away if I pick some other livery than the 2 bottom ones,
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/c172-livery-tests-git-fgfs-screen-014.png
was shot after I picked first "n301dp" and then "default", which lays
itself on top of "n301dp" and produces the door shadow differences.
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/c172-livery-tests-git-fgfs-screen-006.png
was shot with the D-ENMU livery.

..tail and wing stripes are smeared by design?
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-007.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-008.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-009.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-010.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-011.png

..the AI traffic flies funny, like a paper plane blown downwind:
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-012.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/raw/master/git-fgfs-screen-013.png

..I saw no such shade differences in FG-1.9.1, in Debians FG-2.0.0-2,
these shade differences also flicker rather wildly.  I also found
Debians FG-2.0.0-2 cannot --enable-fullscreen, now my new preference 
with FG-git, rock steady 'n _smooth_ @ 15 to 18 fps, thanks guys. :o) 

..if you don't see flickering with nvidea etc closed source video
drivers, try X.org's nouveau etc drivers, even X.org's nv should 
manage to do a screenshot.  

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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