On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 19:27 -0600, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> John,
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, there were some changes. I’ll try to help out soon, but am
> limited on time at the moment. You might search the JSBSim mailing
> list for the “tank priority” terms. 
> 
>  
> 
> Briefly, as I recall, there is now a “priority” element, with priority
> “1” being the highest. I forget if “0” means anything. Any tank with
> the same priority provides fuel until all tanks of the same priority
> are empty. Then, the next priority tanks are used (1, then 2, then …).
> 
>  
> 
> The “new” tank system was introduced by one of our developers who is
> also an airline pilot. Unfortunately, I don’t think that the features
> is widely used, yet – at least in models in the JSBSim repository. I’m
> using it in one vehicle model now, but can’t share that.
> 
>  



   If you are looking for an example in FG, the A380 has used this new
system for some time.
   It uses a <feed> element on the <engine> element, and <priority> on
the <tank> element.

   You can see
https://www.gitorious.org/airbus-aircraft/a380/blobs/master/A380.xml
   for details.


   Hope that helps.
     S.






> 
> I hope this helps. You might try cross-posting to the JSBSim developer
> list, too. Let me know if you need more help.
> 
>  
> 
> Jon
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: castle...@comcast.net [mailto:castle...@comcast.net] 
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:41 AM
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Fg Fuel System Changes
> 
> 
>  
> 
> HI,
> 
> Had been running with fg-2.4 for some time and finally getting around
> to upgrading to 2.8.  Seems there where some changes to the fuel and
> tanking system in JSBSiim starting with 2.6.  It "breaks" the mods
> made to the code to support the 737/747 full scale cockpits tanking
> models in 2.4 and prior.
> 
> In large aircraft such as the 7x7 types the fuel is NOT drawn equally
> from all tanks.  Rather, in terms of graph theory, you should think of
> the tanking system as a fully connected graph for the tanks, engines,
> and crossfeed valves. Such that any feed tank can feed any engine or
> all engines can draw from one feed tank.  The case where all tanks
> feed to a manifold that supplies all engines is just one special case.
> 
> At any rate, is there a writeup on the changes? Or might the author
> find some time to describe what was changed?
> 
> Having trouble understanding how to the "FuelExpended" variable to a
> specific tank and how to pass the tank contents onto the flightgear
> side.
> Here is how it works in my 2.4:
> 
> this was the mod to the FGEngine::ConsumeFuel(void) in 2.4
> 
>    if ( Active_Tank >= 0 ) {
>              Tank = Propulsion->GetTank(Active_Tank);
>             if (Tank->GetType() == FGTank::ttFUEL) {
>        //Fshortage += Tank->Drain(CalcFuelNeed()/TanksWithFuel);  //
> SEE NOTE ABOVE
>                 Fshortage += Tank->Drain(CalcFuelNeed() );
>         }
>       } else Starved = true;
> 
> where "Active_Tank" was a value passed from the cockpit fuel control
> panel (via network controls) to fg and the fg/jsbsim interface in
> jsbsim.cpp.
> 
> and this was the code to transfer fuel in the 737 model to the center
> feed tank
> 
>   // Remove equal amount of fuel from each feed tank.  
> //  FuelNeeded = FuelToBurn/TanksWithFuel;
> //  for (i=0; i<FeedList.size(); i++) {
> //    Tank = Propulsion->GetTank(FeedList[i]);
> //    Tank->Drain(FuelNeeded); 
> //  }
> 
>     Tank_0 = Propulsion->GetTank(0);
>     double center_fuel = Tank_0->GetContents();
>     if ( center_fuel < 6000.0 ) transfer = true;
>         else if ( center_fuel > 9000.0 ) transfer = false;
>     if ( transfer ) {
>         Tank_1 = Propulsion->GetTank(1);
>         if ( Tank_1->GetContents() > 100.0 ) {
>             Tank_0->Fill( 0.040 );
>             Tank_1->Drain( 0.040 );
>             }
>         Tank_2 = Propulsion->GetTank(2);
>         if ( Tank_2->GetContents() > 100.0 ) {
>             Tank_0->Fill( 0.0401 );
>             Tank_2->Drain( 0.0401 );
>             }
>         }
> 
> So setting Active_Tank=0 has both engines drawing from the center tank
> and when it drops below 6000# the fuel transfer system fills until it
> reaches 9000# or the pilot can select, via the fuel control panel, to
> feed each engine directly or crossfeed as desired.  Setting
> Active_Tank=-1 starves the engine.
> 
> The 747 is much more complex and, in the interest of brevity, is not
> discussed.
> 
> The entire function "ConsumeFuel" is removed and having some
> difficulty undestanding how "FuelExpended" is interfaced to draw down
> the tanks.
> 
> Any help would be apprecuated.
> 
> John
> 
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