Le 21/12/2012 23:31, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a 
écrit :
> Hi Clement
>
> Yes it is really sad to see such commit messages.
>
> But maybe the PAF team also thinks too concurrently in headers, gpl and 
> copyright notice and file descriptions here. Maybe the PAF team has to take 
> into account that Helijah spent half of his life contributing to flightgear 
> models and this needs some personal respect and not only respecting gpl 
> terms. For me personally the contribution of the PAF is very welcome, but to 
> be honest, it has not the same history like the contribution of Emanuel. Even 
> when it sounds strange to you, try to talk to him directly.
>
> I guess no one here wants to judge about small coyright thinking and "who was 
> first", "who violates gpl by gpl" and other childish games (which points 
> mainly to Emanuel, who is responsible for many reallly bad commit messages, 
> forum messages, in a really bad manner).
>
> But at the end here we are all volunteers, and the best you can do, the best 
> the PAF team can do for the project is ... keep your work up, get commit 
> rights and commit and try to communicate in a good way, a long time.
>
> Never blame others for doing this or that to make us judge about "who is 
> right". Helijah does it the "hidden" way in his commit messages, everyone 
> knows and ignores, but you do it here officially in the list.  Don't think 
> people here are so stupid that they do not realise what's going on.
>
> The Flightgear Project made the bad mistake to miss to split the code into 
> "core" and "plug-ins" with fg/sg vs. parts of fgdata, making it possible to 
> have "hangers" for example. Maybe the core devs will make a better decision 
> about this once, or when the current core team realise what fgdata has become 
> actually, or another core team.
>
> Lets say thanks to all fgdata contributors who makes not that much noise and 
> are patient all the days, really.
>
> -Yves
Hi Yves,

This will be my only response to these people, here (the devel list is 
not make for that !).

Contrary to what Clement said, I have had no contact with them either by 
phone or otherwise. In addition they have completely closed their forum 
to me (By banning outright. Congratulations form the right of reply and 
freedom) and leaves IRC very quickly when I arrive :). They are fault 
and they know it. I have no time for people like that.

On header files, I never removed the header indicating the authors (file 
.nas of Clément, texture of Patten etc. .. check yourself). Simply some 
xml files that I myself spent a lot of time to rebuild saw a header 
signigiant the creators was the PAF. This being so totally wrong it was 
logical to remove it. Respect is also not to crush what others have done.

The aircrafts of my hangar are not mine !. They are modeled for you 
before anything else. The men of the PAF do not support this and will do 
anything to tarnish my reputation. I have only one thing to do. Continue 
to provide aircraft for the enjoyment of many.

If their forum PAF is inaccessible to me, you must know that everyone 
can come and talk on the forum that I had to create after their 
banishment. But they do not come. Worse than that. The few people who 
dared to come on my forum have received several threatening mail from them.

I say more. Faced with this type of behavior, that only the honesty and 
truth can succed. So I will continue to modeling the aircrafts. Time 
will do the rest.

For those who have doubts, I have only one thing to say. Come talk about 
it on the forum http://embaranger.free.fr (you'll never be banished 
because I support always and forever freedom of expression).

Now, crying in devel list, is an effective way to annoy people by 
putting the blame on another. It is simply shameful them. But it appears 
that they can not make me abandon FG so they try all other means.

Regards Emmanuel

-- 
BARANGER Emmanuel

http://helijah.free.fr

http://embaranger.free.fr


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