Whats GLUT !? I cannot start Cessnas, when I press the throddle, it
disappears.....

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP (Melchior FRANZ)
   2. RE: Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP (Vivian Meazza)
   3. RE: Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP (Vivian Meazza)
   4. [from Avsim] ERROR: ... Unknown exception...      Possible cause:
      No error (Ampere K. Hardraade)
   5. Re: [from Avsim] ERROR: ... Unknown exception...  Possible
      cause: No error (Erik Hofman)
   6. RE: Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP (Vivian Meazza)
   7. FGstart? (Josef Krzywon)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:44:29 +0100
From: Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP
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* Vivian Meazza -- Friday 28 January 2005 22:25:
> I didn't know GLUT _had_ magnetos, far less issues with them. Anyway,
still
> works for me here. 

umm ... and you are sure the below mentioned problems are meanwhile solved?
(Which doesn't say that this XP version isn't compiled/linked with SDL.)

m.




* Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 10 November 2004 09:39:
* > Paul Surgeon wrote:
> > The magnetos were both on but I had to click on one of
> > them and only then would the engine start running. The
> > switch position were still the same before and after
> > (on position) but clicking on one of them "did
> > something".
> 
> That is odd - they should begin in the 'off' (down) position. Flipping one
> to 'on' should be enough to do a windmill start. Could you look at that
one
> again?
> 
> > 
> > However the aircraft cannot be started on the ground
> > using a GLUT build. Rebuilding with SDL fixed the
> > problem so it looks like Melchior may be right.
> > When I fired the starter the property stayed "true"
> > for as long as I held the key down.
> 
> I'm sure Melchior is right - I think he uses the Spitfire more than I.
> 
> > 
> > Oddly enough the 172 starts just fine using glut.
> > 
> 
> I don't think you can read too much into this - the Spitfire uses some
> complex NASAL code to achieve the start routines. I don't think this is
the
> case for the 172.
> 
> Anyway, I'm glad that you have got it to work, even if only partially.
> 
> Vivian 



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:56:41 -0000
From: "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP
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Melchior FRANZ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Sent: 28 January 2005 22:44
> To: FlightGear user discussions
> Subject: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP
> 
> * Vivian Meazza -- Friday 28 January 2005 22:25:
> > I didn't know GLUT _had_ magnetos, far less issues with them. Anyway,
> still
> > works for me here.
> 
> umm ... and you are sure the below mentioned problems are meanwhile
> solved?
> (Which doesn't say that this XP version isn't compiled/linked with SDL.)
> 
> m.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> * Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 10 November 2004 09:39:
> * > Paul Surgeon wrote:
> > > The magnetos were both on but I had to click on one of
> > > them and only then would the engine start running. The
> > > switch position were still the same before and after
> > > (on position) but clicking on one of them "did
> > > something".
> >
> > That is odd - they should begin in the 'off' (down) position. Flipping
> one
> > to 'on' should be enough to do a windmill start. Could you look at that
> one
> > again?
> >
> > >
> > > However the aircraft cannot be started on the ground
> > > using a GLUT build. Rebuilding with SDL fixed the
> > > problem so it looks like Melchior may be right.
> > > When I fired the starter the property stayed "true"
> > > for as long as I held the key down.
> >
> > I'm sure Melchior is right - I think he uses the Spitfire more than I.
> >
> > >
> > > Oddly enough the 172 starts just fine using glut.
> > >
> >
> > I don't think you can read too much into this - the Spitfire uses some
> > complex NASAL code to achieve the start routines. I don't think this is
> the
> > case for the 172.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm glad that you have got it to work, even if only partially.
> >
> > Vivian

Checking, I didn't change anything as a result of this post - I thought that
the problem was outwith the Spitfire code.

Regards

Vivian





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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:24:36 -0000
From: "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP
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Vivian Meazza wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-users-
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> Sent: 28 January 2005 22:57
> To: 'FlightGear user discussions'
> Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP
> 
> Melchior FRANZ
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-users-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Sent: 28 January 2005 22:44
> > To: FlightGear user discussions
> > Subject: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP
> >
> > * Vivian Meazza -- Friday 28 January 2005 22:25:
> > > I didn't know GLUT _had_ magnetos, far less issues with them. Anyway,
> > still
> > > works for me here.
> >
> > umm ... and you are sure the below mentioned problems are meanwhile
> > solved?
> > (Which doesn't say that this XP version isn't compiled/linked with SDL.)
> >
> > m.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 10 November 2004 09:39:
> > * > Paul Surgeon wrote:
> > > > The magnetos were both on but I had to click on one of
> > > > them and only then would the engine start running. The
> > > > switch position were still the same before and after
> > > > (on position) but clicking on one of them "did
> > > > something".
> > >
> > > That is odd - they should begin in the 'off' (down) position. Flipping
> > one
> > > to 'on' should be enough to do a windmill start. Could you look at
> that
> > one
> > > again?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > However the aircraft cannot be started on the ground
> > > > using a GLUT build. Rebuilding with SDL fixed the
> > > > problem so it looks like Melchior may be right.
> > > > When I fired the starter the property stayed "true"
> > > > for as long as I held the key down.
> > >
> > > I'm sure Melchior is right - I think he uses the Spitfire more than I.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Oddly enough the 172 starts just fine using glut.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't think you can read too much into this - the Spitfire uses some
> > > complex NASAL code to achieve the start routines. I don't think this
> is
> > the
> > > case for the 172.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I'm glad that you have got it to work, even if only partially.
> > >
> > > Vivian
> 
> Checking, I didn't change anything as a result of this post - I thought
> that
> the problem was outwith the Spitfire code.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Vivian
> 

I can't find a problem that would prevent starting on the ground or in the
air. There is a valid criticism that when the starter is pressed the starter
continues to operate - this is unrealistic for a cartridge start. I will fix
that some time soon.

More important is that the transparency of the gun sight reflector has gone
wrong, and the switch no longer works. Less work on carrier aircraft, and
more on the Spitfire I guess, I'll get on this issue at once.

Regards,

Vivian

 





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:12:11 -0500
From: "Ampere K. Hardraade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flightgear-users] [from Avsim] ERROR: ... Unknown
        exception...    Possible cause: No error
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http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=198&topic_id=573&mod
e=full



Ampere



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 10:16:44 +0100
From: Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] [from Avsim] ERROR: ... Unknown
        exception...    Possible cause: No error
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Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
>
http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=198&topic_id=573&mod
e=full

Tough one, The only think I can see is the missing file error, he might 
check if it is actually present.

Otherwise, quite a number of these type of problems have been fixed in 
the latest version of FlightGear.

Erik



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:10:49 -0000
From: "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear v0.9.8 on Windows XP
To: "'FlightGear user discussions'" <[email protected]>
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Vivian Meazza wrote:


... snip ...
> 
> More important is that the transparency of the gun sight reflector has
> gone
> wrong, and the switch no longer works. Less work on carrier aircraft, and
> more on the Spitfire I guess, I'll get on this issue at once.
> 

The problem is that the 'blend' function is broken, as reported by Erik on
the Developers' List. I will adjust the transparency of the reflector, but
the dimmer function is broken until the 'blend' function gets fixed.

I've heard nothing more on the failure to start the Spitfire/Seafire, so I
guess all is well now?

Regards

Vivian





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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:48:52 +0100
From: Josef Krzywon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flightgear-users] FGstart?
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Hi all,

i've been using FlightGear for windows. Now I switched to the linux
version. All is working fine (and with a better performance :) ).

The thing which I miss in the linux version is the "FGstarter"
Is there any possibility to download it anywhere? I've got my
Flightgear from the gentoo-portage and the FGStarter wasn't installed
with Flightgear.

I do not use it to start but I need it to know which airport is in the
Database, so i know which runway/aircraft parameter I have to use.

cheers josef




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