Hi,

I'd like to point out I have no objection to "feeding families" : we also 
happily use Maple (another commercial product by Waterloo) for instance. 

The problem is that Mathworks - in contrast with Waterloo - charges 
excessive prices that are in no relation to the quality of their product, 
simply because they have more or less a monopoly in their field.

My idea is that we shouldn't contribute to make a greedy monopolist even 
richer : feeding your family doesn't necessarily mean that every child 
needs 2 Rolls Royces and a private jet ;-)

--
Bye,
Kees

On Thursday 07 April 2005 16:14, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> Kees Lemmens wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >In our Math department we are rapidly replacing Matlab (commercial and
> >VERY expensive !) with Octave (GNU Open Source). I wonder: wouldn't it
> > be a better to make a connection to an Open Source project like
> > Octave instead ?
>
> As someone else in this thread pointed out, the I/O capabilities in
> FlightGear are open for anyone to use.  The work I did was simply to
> make the binary structure a bit more predictable in a cross platform
> environment.  Does Octave have facilities for modeling flight dynamics
> or control systems?  If so, I'm happy to work with an Octave developer
> to iron out any interfacing issues.
>
> >Matlab is squeezing lot's of money out of people. They try to connect
> > just about anything to their software so that users won't even
> > consider using anything else (apart for those who pay the bills ;-).
> >
> >But I don't think that FlightGear - as an outstanding Open Source
> > project - should co-operate in making this nasty company even more
> > powerful ...
> >
> >Even Airbus seemed to be fed up with the Matlab tax-collectors and
> > started developing their own Open Source Matlab-clone already some
> > years ago : SciLab.
> >
> >BTW: this reminds me of another nasty company ;-)
>
> People are going to think what they are going to think about business,
> politics, etc.  And this forum is the wrong place to discuss those
> issues.  I have never looked at Octave, myself, but if it's a
> legitimate contender, and Octave users want to interface with
> FlightGear for some reason, then I'm happy to participate and make that
> as seamless and easy as possible.
>
> For what it's worth, many very big name companies use matlab/simulink.
> If these companies also start using FlightGear in conjunction with
> matlab as a visualization tool, then that increases FlightGear's
> "market share" in a very high profile segment of the market.  That's
> good in and of itself, but if some of these companies (or developers
> that work at these companies) make changes/additions to FlightGear,
> that's a direct benefit to us.  All of these forces feed each other,
> and hopefully build an upward spiral to make FlightGear better and
> better.
>
> Personally, I think open-source is a great and wonderful way to develop
> software ... it's not perfect, but it has many advantages.  There's no
> question that this is the best approach for FlightGear.  But at the
> same time, people need to feed thier families ... those of us who are
> cursed to live out their lives as software geeks (with few other
> marketable skills) shouldn't be prevented from making a living from our
> primary skill.  I believe the world needs a combination of proprietary
> and open-source software.  Both approaches have their own unique
> strengths and weaknesses.  I think the "optimal" way to develop
> software is to find good ways to marry the two approaches.  But like
> any marriage, one of the hardest things is to figure out the exact
> details (balance of power, division of labor, etc.) between the
> spouses.  Some matches work better than others, but a good match is far
> more powerful and capable than individuals working in isolation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Curt.

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