Bonjour Fred:

Je suis en France dans l'Auvergne. Si je parle très forte, tant pis, mais
après beaucoup des heures, avec des autres, en tant que je peux dissiper des
problèmes, je continua comme ça !

Little is given to Windows' users and we have to find ways to resolve our
issues. We did not have access to the "pre" versions, but, yes, we are left
to resolve them ourselves. There are some list members who have given hours
of their time to assist us. Like me, we thank them for this. In the main it
may be a graphics card/driver problem, but then again we are in the mass
market and developers SHOULD remember this. I am too old and can go far
back, but there was a spirit in being able to share information. Times are
changing and nowadays, these persons are few and far between. The spirit of
Flight Gear is excellent, but it is becoming too big and splintered, with
what seem many unfinished projects and no control over its ultimate
direction. We have even had one aircraft developer recently say that he
created an aircraft, but did not expect anyone to use it! His response was
to someone asking why the cockpit was not finished!!! Why was it made
available for download?

There are big issues with this release and, so far, it seems to be Windows
related. As for non-Windows operating systems and the types of problems we
are reading about, these seem to be, in the main, related to how "script" or
"codes are written" and where to find the relevant information. What we are
seeing is more discontent and this is going to grow. With previous versions,
we heard that this or that would be resolved in the next release or new
script (which cannot be accessed for Windows). We now have the latest
version, but the pre release was not available for Windows' users. As I said
the mass market is Windows and if we were able to access developments as
they happened, there would be more individuals available to comment on or
inform of problems. As it is, it is afterwards and too late to do anything
about it. If the problems were resolved, would Windows' users have access to
the changes when immediately needed? Then, in answering your question, would
I donate for development - yes, but only when I was assured that it
benefited Windows' users. At this time it does not.

Thank you

Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: Frederic Bouvier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:40 AM
To: FlightGear user discussions
Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools

Quoting MPCEE French Bureau :

> Much is now being mentioned about developers and their lack of testing.
It's
> like architects not living in their own designed houses!

How much did you pay for this software ? Are you willing to donate the
hardware
you want to use to someone able to debug that ?

-Fred




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