On Thursday 06 April 2006 07:41 pm, Dave Perry wrote:
> Hal V. Engel wrote:
> >I have yet to find any aircraft in FlightGear that stalls in a realistic
> > way.
>
> It is possible in YaSim to get fairly real stall behavior and even a
> spin.  Most Piper single engine AC have fairly docile stall
> characteristics with only slight control buffet.  If anything, the
> pa24-250 in fgfs has more severe stalls than the real AC.
>
> > At the final stages of the stall depending
> >on the aircraft it should either mush straight ahead while still
> > shuddering and shaking or it should drop a wing and (for some aircraft)
> > enter a spin.
>
> Again try the pa24. In a takeoff and departure stall to the left or
> right, it tends to drop the lower wing rapidly and suddenly at the stall
> with an occasional spin if your coordination is sloppy.  It tends to
> mush with no power and a straight ahead stall.  Even in a landing
> configuration (full flaps, gear down, no power), if you are aggressive
> with the yoke, it will drop a wing, but not an fast or suddenly as in
> the departure stalls.  Also, it always snaps toward the low wing in an
> accelerated stall (60 deg bank to get the 2 gs) and if you don't
> immediately release the yoke, you will be inverted.

Just tried the pa24 after installing 0.9.10 and it does indeed have more 
realistic stall behavior.  It does drop a wing and will spin.  Have not flown 
a real pa24 so I can't comment on how close this is to the real thing but it 
is definitely better than most of the available FG aircraft in this regard.  
I would recommend the pa24 for those that want to learn more about how to 
handle stalls and spins.

>
> >Aircraft with a "critical wing" such as the P-51 should stall with little
> >warning (perhaps a little shaking just before full stall) and should drop
> > a wing very quickly when stalled.  Instead it mushes straight ahead like
> > a trainer but without any shuddering or shaking.  Very unrealistic.
>
> I also tried the p51 and I agree.  It won't even do an accelerated stall
> in a 60 degree bank.  I believe the p51 is a YaSim model.  so with a
> little tweaking, it should stall much more realisticly.  I will do some
> experimenting with it.

I am looking forward to having the flight characteristics of the P-51 
improved.  I really get a kick out of flying it now but would like it to 
stall/snap/spin in a realistic manner.  Particularly since I mostly fly 
aerobatics in the P-51 I would like to add span rolls to my list of manovers. 

As a side note 0.9.10 is great.  My thanks to everyone working on this for 
your hard work.

Hal


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