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>    1. Re: Flightgear 9.10 and SuSE10.1/nvidia (Donn Washburn)
>    2. Re: Flightgear 9.10 and SuSE10.1/nvidia (Anders Gidenstam)
>    3. Re: Flightgear 9.10 and SuSE10.1/nvidia (Donn Washburn)
>    4. win XP cannot load the scenery (Antonio P?rez Errazquin)
>    5. Re: Old timey airports? (Paul Johnson)
>    6. Re: is this a radar antenna? (Jon Elson)
>    7. Re: FGRun (Frederic Bouvier)
>    8. Re: FGRun (Vivian Meazza)
>    9. newbie question (David Ross)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:29:21 -0500
> From: Donn Washburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Flightgear 9.10 and SuSE10.1/nvidia
> To: FlightGear user discussions
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> Hal V. Engel wrote:
>
>> There is also a patch available for version 2.40 that fixes this  
>> problem.  I
>> am currently running with 2.40 using this patch.  Here it is:
>>
>> --- freeglut-2.4.0/src/freeglut_cursor.c       2005-04-22  
>> 17:23:12.000000000
>> +0200
>> +++ freeglut-2.4.0-patched/src/freeglut_cursor.c       2005-09-15
>> 02:32:55.000000000 +0200
>> @@ -130,7 +130,9 @@
>>                      XCreateFontCursor( fgDisplay.Display,
>> entry->cursorShape);
>>              }
>>              cursor = entry->cachedCursor;
>> -        } else {
>> +          if (cursor == None)
>> +              fgError( "Failed to create cursor" );
>> +      } else {
>>              switch( cursorIDToUse )
>>              {
>>              case GLUT_CURSOR_NONE:
>> @@ -147,9 +149,6 @@
>>              }
>>          }
>>
>> -        if ( ( cursorIDToUse != GLUT_CURSOR_NONE ) && ( cursor ==  
>> None ) ) {
>> -            fgError( "Failed to create cursor" );
>> -        }
>>          XDefineCursor( fgDisplay.Display,
>>                         window->Window.Handle, cursor );
>>      }
>>
> Thanks I may give it a try on 2.4.
> It is up and running on the CVS version 08/25/06
>
> I will say on this somewhat stock SuSE 10.1 and a ASUS AMD Athlon-xp
> 2800 with 500 M of DDR ram, Nvidia 5200 128M AGP +8 video card it is
> slower than molasses in winter.  HiHi  This is true while running KDE
> 3.5.4 or fvwm2.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:04:17 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Anders Gidenstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Flightgear 9.10 and SuSE10.1/nvidia
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> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Donn Washburn wrote:
>
>> I will say on this somewhat stock SuSE 10.1 and a ASUS AMD Athlon-xp
>> 2800 with 500 M of DDR ram, Nvidia 5200 128M AGP +8 video card it is
>> slower than molasses in winter.  HiHi  This is true while running KDE
>> 3.5.4 or fvwm2.
>
> It really really shouldn't be that slow on your hardware.
>
> What do gl-info give you if you run it?
>
> My age old AMD Athlon XP1600+ give reasonable performance. Ok, my
> current graphics card is newer, but even my previous Geforce2 card was
> useable.
>
> Make sure you are using the Nvidia drivers, otherwise all OpenGL
> operations are done in software - and that will be slow..
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ~/FlightGear/0.9_cvs/bin/gl-info
> GL_VENDOR = "NVIDIA Corporation"
> GL_RENDERER = "GeForce 6600 LE/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!"
> GL_VERSION = "2.0.1 NVIDIA 81.78"
> ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anders
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> "In a world without fences, who needs gates?"
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:24:48 -0500
> From: Donn Washburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Flightgear 9.10 and SuSE10.1/nvidia
> To: FlightGear user discussions
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> Anders Gidenstam wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Donn Washburn wrote:
>>
>>> I will say on this somewhat stock SuSE 10.1 and a ASUS AMD Athlon-xp
>>> 2800 with 500 M of DDR ram, Nvidia 5200 128M AGP +8 video card it is
>>> slower than molasses in winter.  HiHi  This is true while running  
>>> KDE
>>> 3.5.4 or fvwm2.
>>
>> It really really shouldn't be that slow on your hardware.
>>
>> What do gl-info give you if you run it?
>>
>> My age old AMD Athlon XP1600+ give reasonable performance. Ok, my
>> current graphics card is newer, but even my previous Geforce2 card  
>> was
>> useable.
>>
>> Make sure you are using the Nvidia drivers, otherwise all OpenGL
>> operations are done in software - and that will be slow..
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ~/FlightGear/0.9_cvs/bin/gl-info
>> GL_VENDOR = "NVIDIA Corporation"
>> GL_RENDERER = "GeForce 6600 LE/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!"
>> GL_VERSION = "2.0.1 NVIDIA 81.78"
>> ...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> gl-info
> freeglut (gl-info): Unable to create direct context rendering for  
> window
> 'You should never see this window!'
> This may hurt performance.
> GL_VENDOR = "Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org"
> GL_RENDERER = "Mesa GLX Indirect"
> GL_VERSION = "1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)"
>
> I am currently recompiling the kernel so that the NV.run file will  
> work
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:07:52 -0300
> From: Antonio P?rez Errazquin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Flightgear-users] win XP cannot load the scenery
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> I am running FGFS in Windows XP and cannot load the scenery. Not even
> the San Francisco Bay Area.
>
> Does anyone know how to run it properly?
>
> Antonio
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>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:50:52 -0700
> From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Old timey airports?
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> On Saturday 26 August 2006 08:55, Jeff Koppe wrote:
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for an old-time flying field with  
>> just
>> couple of wooden hangers and a grass strip? I've picked up working  
>> on my
>> 1911 Wright EX for FlightGear and would like to move it off the  
>> busy San
>> Fancisco taxiway. It's a little annoying to keep getting run down  
>> by the
>> big 'uns!
>
> OR60 and 68OR are both grass or dirt runways a few miles into the  
> Mt Hood
> National Forest from the Great Basin Desert near Dufur, Oregon.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:26:08 -0500
> From: Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] is this a radar antenna?
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> Josh Babcock wrote:
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>> I'm not sure if this is a radar antenna, or what. It's smack in the
>> middle of KADW, about a thousand feet north of the VOR. There  
>> should be
>> a TACAN antenna around somewhere, but I don't think this is it. Can
>> anyone identify it?
>>
>> http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/antenna.jpg
>>
>>
> That looks roughly like an ASR-7 through ASR-9 terminal  
> surveillance radar.
>
> A TACAN or VORTAC looks like a giant bowling pin surrounded by a  
> circle of
> red spheres on sticks.
>
> Jon
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:24:24 +0200
> From: Frederic Bouvier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] FGRun
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> Frederic Bouvier wrote :
>> Quoting Melchior FRANZ :
>>
>>
>>> * Vivian Meazza -- Monday 15 May 2006 12:30:
>>>
>>>> I notice that there is an outstanding request that scenarios be  
>>>> added to
>>>> FGRun over on sourceforge. I wonder if there is any progress on  
>>>> that one?
>>>>
>>> Would be nice if fgrun would extract the comments on top, or  
>>> better: a
>>> dedicated <description> and offer it to the user. This should  
>>> describe
>>> what the scenario does and how you use it (TACAN channel etc.). The
>>> scenarios are still "black magic" for some insiders, and next to  
>>> useless
>>> for the casual user. And that's really a pity. Raw diamonds.  :-)
>>>
>>
>> What would be nice is a new option to activate scenarios, instead  
>> of fiddling
>> with  preferences.xml
>>
>
> Some time ago, I added the --ai-scenario option. Tonight, I  
> commited to
> fgrun SVN an interface to select several scenarii among those  
> available
> under $FG_ROOT/AI
>
> There is a win32 binary at the usual place.
>
> -Fred
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:21:23 +0100
> From: "Vivian Meazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] FGRun
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> Fred
>
>> Frederic Bouvier wrote :
>>> Quoting Melchior FRANZ :
>>>
>>>
>>>> * Vivian Meazza -- Monday 15 May 2006 12:30:
>>>>
>>>>> I notice that there is an outstanding request that scenarios be  
>>>>> added
>> to
>>>>> FGRun over on sourceforge. I wonder if there is any progress on  
>>>>> that
>> one?
>>>>>
>>>> Would be nice if fgrun would extract the comments on top, or  
>>>> better: a
>>>> dedicated <description> and offer it to the user. This should  
>>>> describe
>>>> what the scenario does and how you use it (TACAN channel etc.). The
>>>> scenarios are still "black magic" for some insiders, and next to
>> useless
>>>> for the casual user. And that's really a pity. Raw diamonds.  :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> What would be nice is a new option to activate scenarios, instead of
>> fiddling
>>> with  preferences.xml
>>>
>>
>> Some time ago, I added the --ai-scenario option. Tonight, I  
>> commited to
>> fgrun SVN an interface to select several scenarii among those  
>> available
>> under $FG_ROOT/AI
>>
>> There is a win32 binary at the usual place.
>>
>
> I've tried it briefly: it seems like a nice addition to FGRun. Thanks
>
> Vivian
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:12:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Flightgear-users] newbie question
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> I keep getting an error.  I choose, plane, then field,
> then conditions, the program starts to launch but I
> don't get past the initial startup picture.  I am on a
> microsoft based platform.  Here is the error message
>
> Error reading properties:
> failed to open file at C:/documents and settings/
> .....
> Failed to find runway 28
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i am running on version 9.9 using a mac and when  i add the airplanes  
then i when i load those planes when it reaches initializing  
subsystems it quits is there some sort of patch or somthing to fix this.


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