On Saturday 09 September 2006 15:01, Donn Washburn wrote:
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> Thanks Group;
>
> A check of xosview points out that the CPU is running at about 100%
> continuously.  That agrees with your above comments.  So a upgreade may
> be in order.  To that, I will ask for good and bad stories about 64 bit
> machine running SuSE 10.1 or the likes.  Flightgear is finally running
> even though I have done many things to find the joystick problem - it is
> still there.
>
> What I would like to know is an compiling problem and/or about programs
> that will not run.  SuSE has GCC 4.1.0 and the 64 bit lib64

An Athlon-XP 2800 with 512M of RAM should be OK for flight gear and it is 
normal for the CPU to be 100% when running something like this.  This is not 
a real high end setup but it is not real low end either.  

I am running an Athlon 64 and my whole system other then some ada stuff is 
built with gcc 4.1.1.  I am running all of my apps and the system in 64 bit 
mode.  No problems with this at all.   The amd64 processor on Linux for the 
most part is solid.  

The only areas where there are issues are with media stuff.  I have not had 
any issue with sound that are amd64 specific but some video codecs are not 
available for non-x86 platforms.  This means that either you do without those 
few codecs and some video does not work or you use 32 bit versions of a few 
apps like mplayer and firefox so that you can use the 32 bit codecs.   In 
addition flash is not available for amd64 and until very recently if you 
wanted to use flash you had to use 32 bit firefox and run 32 bit versions of 
the plugin and standalone flash.  In the last few weeks a GPL app named gnash 
has gotten to the point where is does much of what is needed for flash stuff 
and it is improving rapidly.  I expect that in the next two to three months 
that amd64 users will be happy to run gnash in place of flash on their 
machines.  

A year ago almost none of the video stuff would run in a usable way on an 
amd64 machine in 64 bit mode.  Now most of it does and the rate of progress 
on this has been rapid.  But if this stuff is important to you and you can't 
live without it all working then you can easily run 32 bit versions of these 
apps and your machine will act just like an x86 machine.  So this is not 
something to be concerned about.  

In addition gcc runs faster in 64 bit mode then it does in 32 bit mode on the 
same hardware by a significant margin.  So if you use gcc a lot then this 
should drive you towards running your amd64 machine as a true 64 bit device. 

One other thing to keep in mind is that amd64 is by far that fasted growing 
Linux architecture.  At this point the amd64 Linux user base is second in 
size only to the x86 user base and far exceeds the size of the user bases of 
all other architectures (excluding x86) combined.  AMD actually has people on 
staff that work on the amd64 parts of the kernel and gcc since Linux users 
represent a significant part of their amd64 customer base. 

I for one am very happy with my machine and the way Linux runs on it. 

Hal

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