craig wrote:
> Georg Vollnhals wrote:
> 
>> I have a *similar* problem with my usb-joystick, not the same. To get it 
>> recognized I had to do a "trick" - assign a (any) usb-device (I used a
>> Logitech Gamepad USB) to my onboard soundcard (gameport) with YAST.
>> Then my "HID 0583:2032 (/dev/input/js0)" joystick gets recognized by the
>> KDE "Kontrollzentrum" (= controll-center), can be calibrated there and
>> works fine.
>> Although it is then present after every reboot of the PC (without that
>> described un-/replugging) the calibration values are lost and I have to
>> calibrate it everytime I have a new PC startup. And I had it lost once I
>> did a very long flight - the device got "uncalibrated" and the airplane
>> crashed.
>> I already made a bug-report to the KDE people, they might be the wrong
>> ones if it is a SUSE system problem. Ok, I have to look for a SUSE
>> bug-report then, as you possibly did already.
>> Regards
>> Georg
>>
>> @Craig:
>> I am still converting some of the FGTools functions and was wrong when I
>> thought this would be a question of *hours*. This is true for 95% of the
>> code. But for the rest it is a question of *days* for a Linux n00b. To
>> find out how to access the users home directory automatically (to read
>> the "UFO-export-XML-file" by FGTools and let it do all that automated
>> things) when the Lazarus functions cannot use the '~' sign was a real
>> task. Now I learned to read the environment-variable "HOME" by a special
>> function. So there is a big delay! But work goes on.
>>
>>  
>>
> Oh the porting is a real battle sometimes!  I still think Linux is 
> largely a black box!  For the moment I will continue with it but really 
> I feel its complete overkill for a desktop system.  Maybe I'm easily 
> dissuaded but the multiuser environment makes it a real bitch to just 
> run your programs and move files about etc.  This is my third go with 
> Linux and I'm not convinced it will be my OS of choice.   I better get 
> back to porting PLIB to OS/2 hadn't I!
> 
> Keep up the work with FGTools though as I think its a good work for us 
> to have completed for whatever platform we run.
> 
> Craig
> 

READ from a recent post of mine -- approach Linux saying very often "I 
don't know JACK/diddly-squat about this stuff". If you approach Linux as 
though it's Windows, frustration will result, that's exactly what I have 
seen in a guy I have on skype regularly, he keeps harping back to the 
Windows way of doing things, e.g he compains that he can't understand 
the filesystem structure, C:\, C:\Windows, C:\Windows\System, 
C:\Programme Files, /, /usr, /usr/bin, /etc/sysconfig all seem to be the 
same hierarchy to me from the day I started using Unix, admittedly what 
they contain is decidedly different.
It wholly depends on your approach as I've seen guys (the largest bulk 
of Linux users) who have mastered the Linux way very quickly and find it 
easy to understand and even write code for.
If Linux is "largely a black box", I can't even imagine what to compare 
Windows to as every shred of a Linux system is available to the whole 
world to scrutinize.
The multi-user environment should be quite easy to understand, each user 
has his/her own environment and is separate, certain operations can only 
be performed by root as a barrier to a user hosing up the system for 
every other user including root. Understand permissions and you have the 
problem solved.
An excellent reference work is available in html format, the pdf link 
doesn't work,
http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz, it's a quick way to demystify 
most things, also as pdf at www.linux-france.org/lug/ploug/doc/rute.pdf.
I have set up desktops for complete computer novices, including guys 66+ 
and 75+ year olds who didn't know how to use a keyboard and they are 
happy using Linux for all the usual stuff like email, skype, surfing the 
web, playing games, spreadsheets, word processing, playing music CD's, 
viewing DVD's and organising and printing photos from digital cameras.

The best analogy I can come up with - when I approach an aeroplane type 
I've never flown before, the main instruments and controls are all the 
same, but I just have to learn how to fly it with the aid of an 
instructor and reading documents. To attempt flying it with current 
knowledge would almost certainly be the final installment to my obituary.
Regards
Sid.
-- 
Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support 
Specialist, Cricket Coach
Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks


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