Sebastian:

here at NCSA we are putting final touches on a combination
NetFlows converter and NetFlows anonymizer.
The NetFlows formats we convert/anonymize are Cisco 5, Cisco 7, Argus,
a unified format we here use at NCSA,  and maybe NFdump (maybe not NFdump
we are not sure about this yet).

We should have a paper describing the tool we call CANINE by May
(including the uni<->bidirectional question you ask about below).
We will announce to this list when the tool itself is available
for download on the a website.  

We identified this practical tool need about a year ago and our work
is just about to come to fruition, I'm glad to hear others will
use this tool as soon as we release it.

Cheers! - Bill Yurcik/NCSA

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Sebastian Krieger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using a few x86 boxes with fprobe and flow-tools installed to 
> collect flows on our networks without exporting routers. In the last 
> months I tried a lot of the well known tools for different kinds of 
> reporting (accounting, incident management, security issues, etc.) based 
> on the logfiles produced by flow-tools.
> 
> When analysing raw flow data without any post processing (e.g. after a 
> flow-print -f 5) it is sometimes really hard to interprete "who" was 
> responsible for bidirectional seen connection, or better which was the 
> source and which was the destination flow at the end. If you look at 
> pcap data logged by tcpdump you should always be able to interprete the 
> client and server role in a connection. If you have bidirectional logs 
> for analyses it is much easier human readable.
> 
> I already wrote some perl code for this conversion and tried lots of 
> different ways to get correct bidir. data. I tried this based on ports, 
> protocol, timestamps and so on, but at the end I had to accept the 
> failure. For me the only way to get as much as possible good data is to 
> do a propabilistic evaluation based on ports. For example a port 80 was 
> more often used in the past then a port 1234 and for this bidir. seen 
> connection it is more propabilistic that port 80 was the destination 
> port. Based on this I currently do the determination of source and 
> destination flow. For me this brings good results in approximately 
> 90-95%. But this is unclean and you should never forget the possible 
> failures.
> 
> Does someone know a really good tool to do this kind of conversion? Is 
> it really possible to determinate source and destination flows based on 
> netflow data? (I'm using netflow v5).
> 
> Thanks for all info!
> 
> Sebastian
> 
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