>
>     If the discussion is about the philosophy of begin()/end(),
>     that's a different thing which is kinda intrinsic to fltk's
>     design, and it can be liked or hated, apparently. This was
>     gone over earlier in this thread (which started 4 months ago)

What is often lost in this discussion is the fact that
  begin();  new Thing(..);  new Thing(); end()
is NOT exactly the same as
  add(new Thing(..)); add(new Thing(..));





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